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re: Why is it ok to steal media?

Posted on 11/26/12 at 9:21 am to
Posted by alajones
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Posted on 11/26/12 at 9:21 am to
I always wondered why this wasn't an issue in the 80's when I would take blank tapes over to my friends house and record a bunch of their songs.

I don't believe it is right to steal or share or whatever you want to call it. You are taking someone's IP or goods and using them for your own entertainment and have no intention of paying for anything in return. But I also know that the only way to get some really obscure stuff is through torrents and "sharing".
This post was edited on 11/26/12 at 9:24 am
Posted by musick
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Posted on 11/26/12 at 9:42 am to
Art (be it Television, music, books, traditional art) is meant to be seen by as many people as possible. The purpose of Art is to create something you truly are proud of and spread it to the rest of human consciousness.

The $ part of it is the business side, and true artists who aren't greedy promote filesharing (see: trent reznor and NIN relasing a full length album for free, radiohead, etc) Musicians these days (the broadband age) make their money touring from merchandise rather than record sales. Hell, even in the golden age (vinyl, cassettes, CDs) the artist only got like $1-2 per $20 album. I know it doesn't make it right but it comes down to greed.

If I download a great album, I will go and purchase it from FYE or amazon online. I pay for neflix and hulu plus, so what's wrong with me downloading a show to watch at a different time (timeshifting) is it "stealing" a TV show if I pay for cable (how is that any different from DVR'ing it?)

I was at the LSU/Ole Miss game and forgot to set my DVR, so I downloaded an HD copy of it to see the broadcast of it. Is this stealing?

Movies are a bit different and more of a gray area. Movies are meant to be seen on the Big Screen so downloading a shitty cam rip or w/e when it's still in theatres is a bit more damaging IMO, because that person won't go pay for the ticket to see it most likely.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 11/26/12 at 9:43 am to
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I always wondered why this wasn't an issue in the 80's when I would take blank tapes over to my friends house and record a bunch of their songs.


It was an issue, the courts just sided with consumers when they said that "personal" copies were acceptable. The first tape I got was a cassette copy of Thriller when I was 10. The difference between then and now is that back then one legit purchase may have been copied by 2 - 10 people while today one legit purchase may be copied by millions of people. People won't produce content worth copying if the price of it is free, so we still have some changes ahead for the industry. They've been hoping to DRM their way into keeping the status quo, but what they really need to do is streamline operations so they can offer the same product for a lower price that more people are willing to pay.
This post was edited on 11/26/12 at 9:45 am
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