re: Lets have a discussion about red cards

We don't know each other, but please note that I wasn't insinuating that you were part and parcel.

This is a stupid arse comment on so many levels, that does have some validity, in about, oh I don't know, 8% of the time, maximum.

If, they were people who 'knew their shite', then they know that the horse's rear end known as Webb, Howard, conditioned greatly, the last WC final by not showing a straight red to Von Bommel, and later to De Jong. Especially, Von Bommel (De Jong's while much more theatrical, was debateable).

Somebody last week insisted on the term 'cynical', albeit using it improperly. Von Bommel's foul was the epitome of 'cynical'.