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re: Game of Thrones Re-Read/Re-Watch Project (Multiple Book Spoilers)

Posted on 9/19/12 at 10:16 pm to
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 9/19/12 at 10:16 pm to
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I like the theory, and it is well thought out, but there is a whole lot of conjecture there. You are doing some real critical thinking. I like it.



I just don't trust Bloodraven. There hasn't been one person in this series who did trust him and that is telling imo. He just wasn't a good person in basically EVERYONES eyes. Now of course that doesn't mean he wasn't. Look at Jaime, everyone thinks he is the scum of the earth but we know better. But how many people could be like Jaime Lannister? How many could handle that stigma and criticism yet still remain a good man? I didn't think anyone could until GRRM wrote Jaime Lannister.

Bloodraven is angry and he wants justice served upon the people who cast him out imo.

Now I by no means think this is 100% accurate or the be all end all of ASOIAF theories, but its the only take on Bloodraven that makes sense to me based off what we know now.

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Oh yeah, and while GRRM throws the stereotypical fairytale assumptions of good versus evil out the window with the regular citizens of Westeros, I do get the feeling he saves that for the COTF and Others (Good vs Evil). I think he'll maintain that, which is why I have a hard time believing that the COTF would join the Others.


Yet time and time again he proves to us that no one is purely "good" and no one is purely "evil". Yet he attempts to suck everyone of us into believing that the COTF are good and the Others are evil. Hes already made it clear there is no such thing in this world imo.

Everyone has their own agenda.

That is the only thing that has proved constant and reliable throughout this whole series. Everyone has their own power play.
This post was edited on 9/19/12 at 10:19 pm
Posted by Tiger in NY
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Posted on 9/19/12 at 10:24 pm to
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Yet time and time again he proves to us that no one is purely "good" and no one is purely "evil"


As of yet, this has only played out with Humans.

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Bloodraven is angry and he wants justice served upon the people who cast him out imo.


I don't trust him either, and think he is like the Saddam of Westeros. I think he will meet his match in Bran. Bran won't be turned easily if that is the goal.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 9/19/12 at 11:33 pm to
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Yet time and time again he proves to us that no one is purely "good" and no one is purely "evil". Yet he attempts to suck everyone of us into believing that the COTF are good and the Others are evil. Hes already made it clear there is no such thing in this world imo.


Case and point, the Wildlings. How often are we told early on in POVs that they're evil and should stay on the other side of the Wall. Then you have Ygritte, Val, Tormund, Mance (to a degree), Gilly, and others who are quite the opposite of that notion.

Now I wouldn't be surprised to find the Others of an evil nature, but that there are some that are not. Ones like Coldhands.
This post was edited on 9/19/12 at 11:34 pm
Posted by GonzoLeslie
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Posted on 9/20/12 at 10:14 am to
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