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re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERS

Posted on 1/10/13 at 12:36 am to
Posted by 19
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Posted on 1/10/13 at 12:36 am to
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And 19, what do you think about my crackpot theory about Varys wanting to wipe out the Targaryens? He's just using Dany for her dragons and army, and once he has that under his thumb, he will try to eliminate her. Dany is strong willed and may not go along with Varys like Aegon was trained to.


- in hindsight, I'm pretty sure neither Varys nor Illyrio had a clue she would hatch the eggs, they married her off to a land-locked warlord to get her brother out of the way, knowing Viserys stupid arse would hang himself sooner than later waiting for Drogo to cross the Narrow Sea...she was not considered any threat to their plans at all, until she got pregnant (Robert's deal w Jorah for her head, Varys was quick to broker that one) I think the eggs were given to her merelyfor safe keeping (who would steal from a Dothraki Khal?) until Aegon was old enough/ time right to make a play for Iron Throne. Aeg having eggs could bolster his Targ ID / claim. I refuse to believe Varys and Illyrio thought the eggs could be hatched, just intended as window dressing for the Mummer's Dragon. Surprise!

Dany won't follow Varys at all, I suspect, especially once Tyrion bends her ear. Marriage may be Varys best/only option if Aegon is going to remain his main plan. He would be wise to ride her all the way to the Red Keep (rather than try to wrestle control of the dragons and unsullied en route). If he is a Blackfyre, his endgame more than likely is to eliminate the Targ line...only after she has served her purpose.

There is also the possibility that Aegon will be relegated to plan B, if Dany gets her shite together (or that he has been Varys's backup plan all along) Especially so, If we're wrong about Varys being a Blackfyre.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 1/10/13 at 12:57 am to
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- in hindsight, I'm pretty sure neither Varys nor Illyrio had a clue she would hatch the eggs, they married her off to a land-locked warlord to get her brother out of the way, knowing Viserys stupid arse would hang himself sooner than later waiting for Drogo to cross the Narrow Sea...she was not considered any threat to their plans at all, until she got pregnant (Robert's deal w Jorah for her head, Varys was quick to broker that one) I think the eggs were given to her merelyfor safe keeping (who would steal from a Dothraki Khal?) until Aegon was old enough/ time right to make a play for Iron Throne. Aeg having eggs could bolster his Targ ID / claim. I refuse to believe Varys and Illyrio thought the eggs could be hatched, just intended as window dressing for the Mummer's Dragon. Surprise!



Agreed, I'm just saying he added her to the plan when he heard of that.

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Dany won't follow Varys at all, I suspect, especially once Tyrion bends her ear. Marriage may be Varys best/only option if Aegon is going to remain his main plan. He would be wise to ride her all the way to the Red Keep (rather than try to wrestle control of the dragons and unsullied en route). If he is a Blackfyre, his endgame more than likely is to eliminate the Targ line...only after she has served her purpose.



Yeah, he'll make sure she arrives in King's Landing, hand her the Iron Throne to sit side by side with Aegon, and then probably have one of his Little Birds slip the Tears of Lys into her ear while she slept. The dragons would then be in the dragon chambers, Varys likely knows how to tame the dragons, and then plans on using them to conquer the seven kingdoms. I seriously doubt Dany will go along with Varys at all (especially with Tyrion and Barristan at her side), and Varys knows this as well. He just hopes she'll be foolish enough to enter the Red Keep in order to eliminate her.

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There is also the possibility that Aegon will be relegated to plan B, if Dany gets her shite together (or that he has been Varys's backup plan all along) Especially so, If we're wrong about Varys being a Blackfyre.


Seriously doubt Aegon will ever be plan B. At most Dany is his plan B. Varys has invested far too much into grooming Aerys and spent too many years of planning for him not to be plan A. Varys merely needs Dany's dragons and army. Once he has that in a marriage between Aegon and Dany, he's got everything he needs from Dany. This was basically proven after Dany's disappearance in Slaver's Bay. Granted this will make Dany far more apprehensive to another marriage, and thus less likely to go to the Red Keep with an offer from Aegon in marriage.
This post was edited on 1/10/13 at 1:02 am
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