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re: Snake ID. Settle a debate

Posted on 5/21/12 at 9:51 pm to
Posted by jiffyjohnson
1226 miles from Death Valley
Member since Nov 2011
5089 posts
Posted on 5/21/12 at 9:51 pm to
Diamond shaped head = venomous.
Oval = non venomous.

Cotton mouth.
Posted by KingRanch
The Ranch
Member since Mar 2012
61640 posts
Posted on 5/21/12 at 9:52 pm to
It's a water snake acting like a venomous cotton mouth
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
21774 posts
Posted on 5/22/12 at 10:57 am to
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Diamond shaped head = venomous.
Oval = non venomous.

Cotton mouth.




It's not that simple at all. MANY non-venomous snakes will flatten their heads out like this when threatened. Some, even have somewhat triangular heads when not threatened.


Here is a harmless hognosed snake:



And a harmless yellow-bellied water snake:



It is true that pit vipers have triangular heads. But Coral snakes, here in the US don't, and many venomous snakes around the world don't. And many non-venomous snakes can mimic either.

And as many of you probably know, lots of non-venomous snakes will rattle their tails in the leaves to mimic a rattlesnake. I've seen rat snakes do it, king snakes do it, and even racers do it.
This post was edited on 5/22/12 at 11:01 am
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