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re: Why is there no "great" music anymore?
Posted on 5/4/12 at 9:49 am to H-Town Tiger
Posted on 5/4/12 at 9:49 am to H-Town Tiger
Back to the original argument about putting bands together from scratch and practicing:
There is book called Outliners or Outliers, can t remember, but anyway has a whole chapter on The Beatles about why they were so succesful. Basicaly right place right time. In their early days they were booked by a German strip club owner to be the house band. They played 4 shows a night 3 PM to 4 AM, 6 days a week. They accumulated over 10,000 hours of playing together as a band in this venue. The author goes on to show the revelance of the 10,000 hours applied to a skill as a "master" of that that skill. They have quotes from the band memeber stating that if it were not for this particular gig, they would not have become the band they became.
Also, the bands that are considered "great" - Beatles, Stones, Zepp, Etc. all have 1 thing in common. They took unknown black blues musicans music and put it rock and roll at some point early in their career. Then you could do that and not be consider ripping someone off due to the fact that no one knew these songs. Do you you think white teens knew that "Whole Lotta Love' was a Muddy Waters song? No. They thought it was a LZ song that was bad arse. It is impossible to do that today with the mass exposure to music.
Not saying that these bands were not talented and great, I love all 3 three, but they did not have obstacles that alot of todays bands have. The original poster's arguement is that it should be easier for bands today to achieve "greatness" is flawed. It was easier then due to the following:
-Rock n roll was new, these artisit could expermient with new sounds and sound very original
-No oversaturation of music due to the Internet
-Change in culture of youth due to Vietnam war, hippies, and drugs
-Ability to borrow/steal other musicans work and have it not be known.
-No radio station genre's to get pigeon holed into where their music was not heard by only a select few.
There is book called Outliners or Outliers, can t remember, but anyway has a whole chapter on The Beatles about why they were so succesful. Basicaly right place right time. In their early days they were booked by a German strip club owner to be the house band. They played 4 shows a night 3 PM to 4 AM, 6 days a week. They accumulated over 10,000 hours of playing together as a band in this venue. The author goes on to show the revelance of the 10,000 hours applied to a skill as a "master" of that that skill. They have quotes from the band memeber stating that if it were not for this particular gig, they would not have become the band they became.
Also, the bands that are considered "great" - Beatles, Stones, Zepp, Etc. all have 1 thing in common. They took unknown black blues musicans music and put it rock and roll at some point early in their career. Then you could do that and not be consider ripping someone off due to the fact that no one knew these songs. Do you you think white teens knew that "Whole Lotta Love' was a Muddy Waters song? No. They thought it was a LZ song that was bad arse. It is impossible to do that today with the mass exposure to music.
Not saying that these bands were not talented and great, I love all 3 three, but they did not have obstacles that alot of todays bands have. The original poster's arguement is that it should be easier for bands today to achieve "greatness" is flawed. It was easier then due to the following:
-Rock n roll was new, these artisit could expermient with new sounds and sound very original
-No oversaturation of music due to the Internet
-Change in culture of youth due to Vietnam war, hippies, and drugs
-Ability to borrow/steal other musicans work and have it not be known.
-No radio station genre's to get pigeon holed into where their music was not heard by only a select few.
Posted on 5/4/12 at 10:36 am to LSUMon
I think this subject has more to do with writing music than anything else, but it's all opinion no matter how you look at it.
The Beatles practicing for 10000 hours does not mean they played the greatest music. I'm not saying they didn't play good music, but thats not what made it. It was the sound they chose for that time. What if the Beatles with all of that practice, had decided they wanted to play jazz, or country, or anything else. Would they still be considered as great as they were?
Great talent does not equal the greatest music.
There are many bands today that are very talented. But they choose to play a style, or type of music that I just do not care to listen to one bit.
Christina Aguilera has an amazing voice, but I can not stand her type of music she sings. That is just my opinion that I am entitled to, but obviously, someone likes her music.
The Beatles practicing for 10000 hours does not mean they played the greatest music. I'm not saying they didn't play good music, but thats not what made it. It was the sound they chose for that time. What if the Beatles with all of that practice, had decided they wanted to play jazz, or country, or anything else. Would they still be considered as great as they were?
Great talent does not equal the greatest music.
There are many bands today that are very talented. But they choose to play a style, or type of music that I just do not care to listen to one bit.
Christina Aguilera has an amazing voice, but I can not stand her type of music she sings. That is just my opinion that I am entitled to, but obviously, someone likes her music.
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