re: What in the hell is Jimbo Fisher selling these kids to get them to commit

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See that's all people see is the top classes. That don't mean shite if you're not developing the talent. As I said I don't expect you to know or understand the situation FSU was in. I'll give you some behind the scenes example. While Jimbo was HCIW he was 4th in ranking when it came to power. Bobby, Mickey Andrews, Chuck Amato, Rick Trickett, then Jimbo. The only thing he had some control of was the offense, he wasn't able to implement any of his philosophies for the program until after he took over. Saban didn't leave LSU screwed up when he left. Chuck Amato punched Jimbo in front of the players on the plane. RB coach Dexter Carter knocked out DE coach Jody Allen in the locker room for using racial slurs(I think he called him a boy or something like that).

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JMO elite coaches who walked into situations with talent and no coaching turned it around on the spot in more competitive conferences-Bob Stoops went undefeated and won NC in his second year, in his second year at each program Nick Saban at LSU won the SEC, and at bama he went 12-0 in the regular season and the next year won an NC, Urban Meyer second year was a 1 loss NC, Jim Tressell went undefeated with an NC in his 2nd year. The elite guys have been able to win on the spot when the previous guy had brought in talent but didnt develop it. I wont write Jimbo off just yet but IMO, as an outsider, in the ACC he should be doing better with the talent he walked into.