re: What in the hell is Jimbo Fisher selling these kids to get them to commit

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FSU consistently had top 5-top 10 recruiting classes even in bobby's last years...it was a situation where a top coach could come in win big and go to a bcs bowl in a weak ACC. IMO Jimbo isnt a bad coach just not elite....seems to be on the mark richt path....JMO.

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See that's all people see is the top classes. That don't mean shite if you're not developing the talent. As I said I don't expect you to know or understand the situation FSU was in. I'll give you some behind the scenes example. While Jimbo was HCIW he was 4th in ranking when it came to power. Bobby, Mickey Andrews, Chuck Amato, Rick Trickett, then Jimbo. The only thing he had some control of was the offense, he wasn't able to implement any of his philosophies for the program until after he took over. Saban didn't leave LSU screwed up when he left. Chuck Amato punched Jimbo in front of the players on the plane. RB coach Dexter Carter knocked out DE coach Jody Allen in the locker room for using racial slurs(I think he called him a boy or something like that).

Hard to develop players with this, and one of the reasons our D was so bad(ranked in the 100's) before Jimbo hired Stoops.
OC Jeff Bowden(Who knows probably in Akron)

De Jody Allen(DC West Georgia..lol)

Asst HC LB Chuck Amato(Had retired, now is at Akron with Terry Bowden)

RB Dexter Carter(Coaching at some HS in Florida...LMAO!!)

Asst HC. DC Mickey Andrews(His heart had been left the game, plus he was dealing with his son blowing his brains out on the front porch of their home)

Basically Jimbo wasn't able to do anything until he took over completely. The S&C and nutrition program was a joke.