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re: City lost £195 Million in 2010-2011

Posted on 11/18/11 at 11:14 pm to
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 11/18/11 at 11:14 pm to
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provided they don't have deep seated hate for a club already, like to see galacticos


What you mean to say is that these types of teams attract more attention they wouldn't otherwise get. These teams will sell shirts, make fans of impressionable kids, but don't pretend like it's universal. I can guarantee that most people didn't like it, and complained about Real's spending this last decade like they complain about Man City's spending this decade.

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They want to watch teams like the invincibles


The Invicibles cost about £100 mil spread out over 7 years. Man City's forward line costs about £105 mil spread over 3. There isn't a comparison.

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Those kinds of teams don't come together without a lot of cash.


While I agree in general, the most successful of the modern teams have been teams with great managers and extremely strong youth systems that were augmented by world-class players. Chelsea and Man City have been thrown together with very little help from their youth systems and a lot of cash thrown around. It's worked, but it isn't a sustainable model, even for the biggest clubs in the world.

And that's the point that City fans, and Chelsea fans before them miss. It's not a sustainable model for the sport as a whole to have an owner who doesn't care if he loses money. I don't see what is so controversial about stating that.
Posted by puffulufogous
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 11/19/11 at 3:03 am to
In regards to the OP, I just get frustrated with these same articles since city have started spending. The media like to run these articles that tell us what we already know. Headline: City lost 195 million pounds! In other news, the sky is fricking blue. I already know we are spending a lot of money, but according to mgmt the faucet is closing. On top of that, people want to pretend that city are the only ones spending money when lots of other clubs have been doing it for years. After that xavier and I were talking about parity as he said that big spending was hurting the game.

In an unrelated response to thenry, beast linked an article with some good points. A lot of people just look at transfer fees and don't consider wages. Many times its the wages that kill you and hurt a clubs ability to transfer assets as we have seen with city.

Now, addressing crazy, see my above explanation for why this article is pointless and why I brought up anzhi. If you want to debate if aguero would have moved if city didn't want him that's fine.

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What you mean to say is that these types of teams attract more attention they wouldn't otherwise get. These teams will sell shirts, make fans of impressionable kids, but don't pretend like it's universal. I can guarantee that most people didn't like it, and complained about Real's spending this last decade like they complain about Man City's spending this decade.

Of course supporting high powered teams is not universal. I was making more of an unrelated point of what teams one might remember. An example, Fiorentina with batistuta were a good team with some moderate success. The average soccer fan would only really remember Batigol while they would probably remember the ronaldo, beckham, and zizou years of real.

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The Invicibles cost about £100 mil spread out over 7 years. Man City's forward line costs about £105 mil spread over 3. There isn't a comparison.

Believe me I wasn't diminishing the accomplishment of the invincibles. I was ranking them up there with some of the greatest teams of all time and probably the best value team of all time. Now again, it didn't hurt that henry went fricking altered beast after an 11 million pound transfer.

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While I agree in general, the most successful of the modern teams have been teams with great managers and extremely strong youth systems that were augmented by world-class players. Chelsea and Man City have been thrown together with very little help from their youth systems and a lot of cash thrown around. It's worked, but it isn't a sustainable model, even for the biggest clubs in the world.

And that's the point that City fans, and Chelsea fans before them miss. It's not a sustainable model for the sport as a whole to have an owner who doesn't care if he loses money. I don't see what is so controversial about stating that.

I have never disagreed with any of those points. We all know that United have had such long term success because of scouting, player development, and fantastic management.

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