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Pretty good read on Saban vs. Miles at LSU
Posted on 10/31/11 at 8:56 am
Posted on 10/31/11 at 8:56 am
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Once we got it going, honestly, it was a lot easier for Les to come in and win because he didn't have to turn around a program," Weems said. "So in the sense of winning, it was easier. But in another sense, maintaining that momentum behind a guy (Saban), who had become an icon at LSU, had its own unique and almost insurmountable challenges. Les has met those, and that's what's so gratifying.
Guilbeau
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Posted on 10/31/11 at 8:57 am to ItsThatDude12
Pretty good read maybe 5 years ago.... fricking same ole lame shite now.
Posted on 10/31/11 at 8:58 am to ItsThatDude12
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Pretty good read
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Guilbeau
Brace yourself.
Posted on 10/31/11 at 8:59 am to The Mick
I don't believe Miles had won over the fanbase 5 years ago.
Two years ago people were calling for him to be fired.
Two years ago people were calling for him to be fired.
Posted on 10/31/11 at 9:13 am to ItsThatDude12
Thanks for posting it. It was a good read. 
Posted on 10/31/11 at 9:31 am to ItsThatDude12
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Two years ago people were calling for him to be fired.
two? try last year
think he's finally winning majority of everyone this year, by finally getting rid of Crowton and putting JJ where he belonged, as a back-up
Posted on 10/31/11 at 9:42 am to MJM
No matter what Les Miles does, he will never get the respect he deserves.
Am I to understand that because of Nick Saban, Les Miles has ahd an easier road.
I'm here to say BS. It's much harder to maintain that high level than it is to build it for one year. Just ask Urban Meyer.
Am I to understand that because of Nick Saban, Les Miles has ahd an easier road.
I'm here to say BS. It's much harder to maintain that high level than it is to build it for one year. Just ask Urban Meyer.
Posted on 10/31/11 at 9:44 am to MJM
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finally getting rid of Crowton and putting JJ where he belonged, as a back-up
Very succinct summation of why LSU is #1 this year but unable to get there in '09 and '10.
Les also seems much less uptight and unintelligible this year.
Posted on 10/31/11 at 9:54 am to pfunkTiger
bump
Posted on 10/31/11 at 10:18 am to ItsThatDude12
Jordy must of read this before he did his show this morning.
Posted on 10/31/11 at 10:37 am to ItsThatDude12
If anyone knows those two coaches, it is Charlie Weems. He was part of the team that hired both and is still friends with Nick and has become close friends with Les. I don't think your average LSU fan appreciates what we have at LSU. Nick's intensity would probably have worn itself out at LSU by now and I expect it will at Bama. Les is the right guy at LSU. Look at how much publicity our university gets. This is a great thing!
How do I know all this? Charlie Weems is my step-father.
How do I know all this? Charlie Weems is my step-father.
Posted on 10/31/11 at 11:38 am to ItsThatDude12
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quote:
Once we got it going, honestly, it was a lot easier for Les to come in and win because he didn't have to turn around a program," Weems said. "So in the sense of winning, it was easier. But in another sense, maintaining that momentum behind a guy (Saban), who had become an A-HOLE at LSU, had its own unique and almost insurmountable challenges. Les has met those, and that's what's so gratifying.
FIFY
Posted on 10/31/11 at 12:00 pm to inebr8ted tiger
quote:I don't think that's true at all. I think he's had to overcome a lot and still has some things left to do. But IMO he is well on the way to getting all the respect he deserves.
No matter what Les Miles does, he will never get the respect he deserves.
Posted on 10/31/11 at 12:02 pm to ItsThatDude12
Dinardo did more turning than Saban.
Posted on 10/31/11 at 12:02 pm to ItsThatDude12
I couldnt finish reading.......
Posted on 10/31/11 at 12:22 pm to Tigah in the ATL
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Dinardo did more turning than Saban.
My arse. This is ridiculous. With his attrition Dinardo was running it straight back in the ground. Never include Dinardo in with Saban and Les....it's an insult to them both.
Posted on 10/31/11 at 12:25 pm to ItsThatDude12
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Once we got it going, honestly, it was a lot easier for Les to come in and win because he didn't have to turn around a program," Weems said.
Of course, this is absolutely true, which is why I guffaw when people compare Saban's overall LSU record to Miles' overall LSU record as if it actually means something. People who can't comprehend that the program was in a vastly better condition in 2005 than in 2000 are mentally challenged.
Miles just needs to beat Saban this weekend. We can end all of the speculation and surmise and extrapolation. Settle it on the field.
Posted on 10/31/11 at 12:29 pm to ItsThatDude12
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Pretty good read
quote:The most rehashed, non illuminating topic on td.com or in the media.
Saban vs. Miles at LSU
This post was edited on 10/31/11 at 12:30 pm
Posted on 10/31/11 at 12:30 pm to Tigah in the ATL
quote:Please, other than a lucky win out of his arse here and there and a good recruit occasionally DiNardo was a complete clusterfrick and an awful coach. That's why he got fired.
Dinardo did more turning than Saban.
Posted on 10/31/11 at 1:10 pm to Tiger_n_ATL
DiNardo may have been an awful coach but he was a good recruiter. He began the run of top recruiting classes that has not abated since. Before DiNardo, LSU routinely lost the top recruits in the state to other programs, especially recruits from New Orleans. DiNardo changed that and LSU has benefitted from it ever since. Remember, Saban won his first SEC title and Sugar Bowl with DiNardo's players.
Don't get me wrong. I was glad to see DiNardo go. I was at his last game, a humiliating loss to Houston in which Tepper's defense was at its lowest ebb. But he did not leave the cupboard bare.
Don't get me wrong. I was glad to see DiNardo go. I was at his last game, a humiliating loss to Houston in which Tepper's defense was at its lowest ebb. But he did not leave the cupboard bare.
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