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was JL disrepected by not allowing to start the 2nd half?

Posted on 10/17/11 at 5:55 am
Posted by lsu xman
Member since Oct 2006
16757 posts
Posted on 10/17/11 at 5:55 am
JL was 8/12 2td's, should've been 3TD passes in the 1st half.

JL, starting QB and Captain for the #1 team and at the time 6-0, but gets to watch from the sidelines at the start of the 2nd half.. Then when LSU got desperate and figure JJ wasnt going to convert a 3rd and 5 passing, JL gets to come back in.

There has been mentioning about JJ being upset and vulgar on the sidelines when things didnt go his way. Any truth in that?


This post was edited on 10/17/11 at 5:57 am
Posted by Purpltiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2003
236 posts
Posted on 10/17/11 at 6:02 am to
No!!!
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
29498 posts
Posted on 10/17/11 at 6:08 am to
I do find it telling that JL is brought in for JJ in OBVIOUS passing situations.

On TV, JJ appeared to have a pouty face when the cameras zeroed in on him.

I have no idea if he is making waves, though. If he is, the solution is to bench his arse for good, not pull the starter to appease a whiny crybaby. That goes for any team, not just LSU and JJ.
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20543 posts
Posted on 10/17/11 at 6:09 am to
LSU fans need to stop worrying about who is gonna have hurt feelings (Lee or Jefferson) and need to support both to play. I thought Jefferson was used perfectly against Tennessee.

At this point, I care more about LSU winning the title than winning an ethical debate over who should be playing as qb, which is pointless to do because what you saw Sat is what you're going to see the rest of the season.
Posted by LetTheValleyShake
Marrero
Member since Mar 2006
1982 posts
Posted on 10/17/11 at 6:09 am to
Oh dear Christ.
Posted by CalTiger
California
Member since Jan 2004
3997 posts
Posted on 10/17/11 at 6:10 am to
Do you want someone to agree with you, be a rumormonger and start some unsubstantiated crap?

Since this is the rant, chances are, all the rest will happen -
someone will agree with you
castigate JJ
defend JJ
crap on Lee
Talk about TM7
blame it on Les.
Posted by kudu
Houston
Member since Sep 2011
50 posts
Posted on 10/17/11 at 6:10 am to
Yes, JL was dissed - no other way to look at it.

JJ should also think about handing off now and then, instead of keeping it every time...
Posted by Big_Al_316
Mobile, AL
Member since Jan 2005
3137 posts
Posted on 10/17/11 at 6:11 am to
quote:

I have no idea if he is making waves, though. If he is, the solution is to bench his arse for good, not pull the starter to appease a whiny crybaby. That goes for any team, not just LSU and JJ.


I think its you that is making waves and crying. Leave it alone and let Les and the coaches coach the team.
Posted by LSUMastermind
South Florida
Member since Jun 2008
897 posts
Posted on 10/17/11 at 6:12 am to
by look at your current post on this board today and yesterday, you are definitely trying to start shyt this morning, why dont you stfu and go sit in the corner.

JJ wasnt pouting about anything, you dont know what he said.
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20543 posts
Posted on 10/17/11 at 6:12 am to
quote:

Since this is the rant, chances are, all the rest will happen -
someone will agree with you
castigate JJ
defend JJ
crap on Lee
Talk about TM7
blame it on Les

And then right as soon as you say that, the guy below you agrees with him!
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 10/17/11 at 6:17 am to
quote:

whiny crybaby.


Now you've done it
Posted by Icansee4miles
Trolling the Tickfaw
Member since Jan 2007
32004 posts
Posted on 10/17/11 at 6:20 am to
Les had a BS explanation when asked about it. Said it was because we were starting at our 1, only thing is, that was our second possession. I also noticed during the press conference he got very, very testy when asked about it. He apparently also didn't tell JL until he was warming up, I'm guessing, thinking he was getting ready to take the field. I keep having the nagging feeling that Les is trying to bend JL over again, no matter how well he's playing. I get this feeling because we have seen that movie before (see, 2009 and 2010). I heard two different talking heads during the NFL games yesterday say that you don't bench your QB, even if he is having a terrible game, and went on to list the reasons. So, benching one that is performing at a high level, doesn't make much sense to me.

The story Les wove about using JJ to get us out from the 1 makes a lot of sense, but in that scenario, wouldn't you put your starter back in as soon as we hit the 20 or so? Yeah, 99 yard drive, blah, blah, blah-I said several times, if you want to pound an inferior opponent by run run run, then put a better runner back there. I would bet that a backfield combination of Ware and Ford could have done the same thing on that drive, especially if you are going to ask JL to trot out there on third and long and sustain the drive anyway.

If the justification is to make sure you have your second QB game ready, then you bring in your second QB when every other team does. At the end of the game when it's in hand. You hear former QB's in the booth talking about getting in a rhythm, and jerking our QB's in and out in the middle of a series would seem to fly in the face of that. So far, it's working, and LM generally does the opposite of what the rest of the experts say with great success, so there you go.

I would still love to see Ware or Shepard, or even Magee run the option with all the backs we have and their HS experience with running it. I think that would be something to give the other DC's to prepare for, not putting in a backup QB that is going to run the ball >90% of the time. And it is clear, he is NOT going to share when he has the option to carry it himself. Rewatching just the highlights on Jordy's show last night, there were several other plays besides on the TD where he gained positive yardage, but a pitch would have gotten a LOT more.
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 10/17/11 at 6:25 am to
Also, LSU runs 68% of the time..

So why do people care so much about ware and ford pass blocking?

How is pass blocking that big of a concern especially for ford when LSU runs 68% of the time?

You'd think they'd just not put ford in on the pass plays
Posted by lmt
Houston
Member since Oct 2009
339 posts
Posted on 10/17/11 at 6:27 am to
The only thing y'all should worry about is putting points on the board......I can careless who is in as long as we win!!!!!!!! Both players will be gone at the end of the season anyway let em play and let's win.....
Posted by skinny domino
sebr
Member since Feb 2007
14513 posts
Posted on 10/17/11 at 6:31 am to
quote:

disrepected
never heard or actually seen this word in use until the late 90's - it is used as an excuse for folks getting pissed, riots in the street, domestic abuse, sports and now the RANT. PS - I'm old 67.
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
22091 posts
Posted on 10/17/11 at 6:39 am to
I see both sides of this thing.. while I am not a fan of JJ, I see where having his skill set makes a difference. Playing both qb's puts more pressure on the def. A def. has to prepare for two totally different Off. One, a more pro style O, running and pounding with a effcient passing game... The other is with JJ in, more of a running qb and a small threat of pass.... That being said, I am a JL fan all the way.... I believe he is the better player at qb and a better leader for the team. I do believe also, that in the end this using JJ will bite us in the arse, probaly from a team morale aspect more than a on the field mistakes.... I hope not, I hope CLM can keep a handle on the whole situation.. But if I was JL, I would be having the red arse after this excerise a few times....
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 10/17/11 at 6:41 am to
quote:

was JL disrepected by not allowing to start the 2nd half?


quote:

On TV, JJ appeared to have a pouty face when the cameras zeroed in on him.



good God almighty
Posted by drexyl
Mingovia
Member since Sep 2005
23364 posts
Posted on 10/17/11 at 6:44 am to
quote:

There has been mentioning about JJ being upset and vulgar on the sidelines when things didnt go his way. Any truth in that?
obvious troll is obvi......aahhh frick it just shut the hell up.
Posted by LSU Acadian
Jefferson GA,
Member since Aug 2010
352 posts
Posted on 10/17/11 at 6:45 am to
No, please kill your-self!
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
136588 posts
Posted on 10/17/11 at 6:46 am to
quote:

was JL disrepected by not allowing to start the 2nd half?
No. Had nothing to do with starting QB. If anything, it was a commentary on the O-line not being able to get a push
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