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re: info. on ducks that will attempt block montgomery/mingo?
Posted on 8/31/11 at 2:27 pm to NawlinsTigah270
Posted on 8/31/11 at 2:27 pm to NawlinsTigah270
Sacks are really hard to pull on Oregon. He's right fellas. All their stuff is designed to get rid of the ball extremely quickly. They don't ask a whole lot from their o line when it comes to pass blocking.
One thing to watch though is what will happen should oregon get down big early. Because that rarely happens for them, it'd be pretty problematic if DT has to play a catch up game by dropping back and throwing. He'll have a much longer game than normal if that were to happen.
One thing to watch though is what will happen should oregon get down big early. Because that rarely happens for them, it'd be pretty problematic if DT has to play a catch up game by dropping back and throwing. He'll have a much longer game than normal if that were to happen.
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Posted on 8/31/11 at 2:33 pm to hemiroid
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Bison these 2 guys are not your normal PAC or SEC ends. They are extremely quick and contain the edges well too! It will be interesting to see how it turns out. I'm not expecting many rushing yards. You are going to have to try and air it out.
C'mon, man. Mingo is 240 and Montgomery is 245. I am sure they are great to elite pass rusher. However, the aren't elite right now against the run.
Posted on 8/31/11 at 2:35 pm to bisonduck
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Elmore and Brooks reeds are in the NFL
Both these guys will be in the NFL, book it
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scouting report says their a little rough around the edges in the run game
I would say that is true for Mingo, but not for Sam
ETA: Our run d wasn't the same once Sam got hurt last year. With him I don't think Auburn would have had the field day they did on the ground
This post was edited on 8/31/11 at 2:37 pm
Posted on 8/31/11 at 2:36 pm to hemiroid
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Bison these 2 guys are not your normal PAC or SEC ends. They are extremely quick and contain the edges well too! It will be interesting to see how it turns out. I'm not expecting many rushing yards. You are going to have to try and air it out.
Remember, we've face Brian Price, Billy Winn, Stephen Paea, Nick Fairly, Heyward, et al the last two seasons. Those guys were returning starters not ripe with potential but at the zenith of their maturation. As much as you guys gush about Keke and Sam Montgomery, both haven't even started a full season.
This post was edited on 8/31/11 at 2:37 pm
Posted on 8/31/11 at 2:37 pm to bisonduck
bison, whether he keeps or pitches, he should expect to be hit, and hit very hard.... mingo has put on 25 lbs. and still runs a 4.5 40! I am looking for DT to be picking his teeth up...IMO
Posted on 8/31/11 at 2:39 pm to bisonduck
Bison, agree that ya'll have a good scheme, but these DE's are very fast. Both are faster than any blitzing LB's we have, except maybe Tyrann(nickel). I think thats why LSU fans expect so much from them, just rarely have we had DE's that run a true 4.5's, and just never quit. It really changed our whole Defense when we lost Montgomery last year, and people are really optimistic now that he's healthy, and Mingo has had more time in the Weight room/cafeteria. Monty made the All-freshman team after just playing in a few games,btw. I do agree though that the middle game will be important, and our DT play, while promising, has yet to be proven. Our speed on the edge doesn't worry me at all, and I think you will have many negative plays on the edge. The middle worries me, but it should worry you, as well, with the experience of the Oregon line. Look for LSU to play solid gap defense, and a lot of nickel/dime to get more speed on the field.
Posted on 8/31/11 at 2:41 pm to lake chuck fan
I am looking for DT to be picking his teeth up...IMO
Posted on 8/31/11 at 2:42 pm to hemiroid
Lsu Defense 2011
click that Bison and you will see what we mean by different than normal SEC ends, not to mention you also have to contain, the backfeild on the rushs, so at any given point you have to watch out for a number of speed rushers, and if you look at the games when Montgomery and Mingo were in the game there was not alot of opp rushing yards, keep in mind Montgomery got hurt early in the season
click that Bison and you will see what we mean by different than normal SEC ends, not to mention you also have to contain, the backfeild on the rushs, so at any given point you have to watch out for a number of speed rushers, and if you look at the games when Montgomery and Mingo were in the game there was not alot of opp rushing yards, keep in mind Montgomery got hurt early in the season
This post was edited on 8/31/11 at 2:44 pm
Posted on 8/31/11 at 2:43 pm to TIGEREYE1
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I am looking for DT to be picking his teeth up...IMO
He won't be. Darron will take some shots but he gets right back up. Montgomery and Mingo aren't going to knock his teeth out if Fairly couldn't.
Posted on 8/31/11 at 2:45 pm to CamdenTiger
Sam was great at stopping the run against West Vagina. A somewhat comparible offense! Just saying...
Posted on 8/31/11 at 2:45 pm to bisonduck
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They were much bigger too. Sorry, but Mongtomery and Mingo scouting report says their a little rough around the edges in the run game.
What scouting report. Not the one from rivals and scouts that came out 3-4 years ago. They're far more improved since then. Both Mingo and Montgomery only started playing football for the first time their junior year in HS. Their scouting reports from high school don't mean much now.
Posted on 8/31/11 at 2:47 pm to Mikebandit
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click that Bison and you will see what we mean by different than normal SEC ends, not to mention you also have to contain, the backfeild on the rushs, so at any given point you have to watch out for a number of speed rushers, and if you look at the games when Montgomery and Mingo were in the game there was not alot of opp rushing yards, keep in mind Montgomery got hurt early in the season
Our scheme has a tougher time with big ends. Sorry, we can make really fast end run the wrong way. That is my experience.
Posted on 8/31/11 at 2:48 pm to whodidthat
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What scouting report. Not the one from rivals and scouts that came out 3-4 years ago. They're far more improved since then. Both Mingo and Montgomery only started playing football for the first time their junior year in HS. Their scouting reports from high school don't mean much now.
The article posted today said Montgomery isn't refined in the run game. The dude has 6 starts and sat out last season. He ain't going to be all SEC the first game back.
Posted on 8/31/11 at 2:50 pm to bisonduck
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Our scheme has a tougher time with big ends. Sorry, we can make really fast end run the wrong way. That is my experience.
awesome i never knew you were out there on the feild playing with them, sweet whats ya name i can say we have a Duck on the rant, let me know after the game what ya thought about defending M&M, if they gave you any trouble....
Posted on 8/31/11 at 2:52 pm to bisonduck
I know the knocking the teeth out thing was kinda extreme, but Fairly didnt have the opportunities for the collisions the options read should present our D ends....
Posted on 8/31/11 at 2:57 pm to bisonduck
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The article posted today said Montgomery isn't refined in the run game.
Can you post the link, referring to it as the scouting report is a little misleading if it's just an article.
Mingo and Montgomery were still raw in their run stopping, but it has been a year and Brick Haley is one of the best D lineman coaches in the country, so he's probably worked on that with them. Plus Ken Adams, Edward, and Aghayere are the main run stoppers at DE, all three are solid players and no push overs.
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The dude has 6 starts and sat out last season. He ain't going to be all SEC the first game back.
He was Freshman All SEC last year even though he only played 4.5 games. His chances of being All SEC first game are pretty good. His recovery has also gone better than expected.
Posted on 8/31/11 at 3:03 pm to bisonduck
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Remember, we've face Brian Price, Billy Winn, Stephen Paea, Nick Fairly, Heyward, et al the last two seasons
Umm Cam Jordan? The guy that played on a team that appeared to handle you guys well? Explain yourself.
This post was edited on 8/31/11 at 3:04 pm
Posted on 8/31/11 at 3:07 pm to bisonduck
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bisonduck
looking at your sig pic... does Chip Kelly actually have a neck?
Posted on 8/31/11 at 3:42 pm to Mikebandit
Posted on 9/4/11 at 12:34 am to BlkShpMCDuck
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C'mon, man. Mingo is 240 and Montgomery is 245. I am sure they are great to elite pass rusher. However, the aren't elite right now against the run.
/Also see my post on first page about having to air it out because of low rushing yards!
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