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Posted on 8/12/11 at 7:27 pm
Posted by Tigerntx
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Posted on 8/12/11 at 7:27 pm
History: Jason Campbell was a JJ type QB @ Auburn - new OC/QB coach, Al Borges, joins the staff in his senior year & immediately turns him into an NFL QB.
Today: Reported that Coast Krag, in a conversation with with his brother, says," I have to keep coaching ..... for Jordan Jefferson ".
Let's hope history repeats!
Posted by bisonduck
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Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 8/12/11 at 7:29 pm to
Campbell did have Cadillac and Ronnie Brown. Not that Ware and Ford aren't good but that was quite the tandem. Btw, those two guys are what I remember of their offense.
This post was edited on 8/12/11 at 7:30 pm
Posted by tigerfan in bamaland
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Posted on 8/12/11 at 7:30 pm to
I am hoping.
Posted by LSUTIGER in TEXAS
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 8/12/11 at 7:35 pm to
JJ reminds me of pro jason campbell. stupid, confused look on the face. gives you enough to think he can be the guy, but always leaves you wanting for more. campbell played really great in 04 for the barn. if JJ can duplicate that performance, no team will play within 2 TDs of us
Posted by Fishhead
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Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 8/12/11 at 7:36 pm to
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Btw, those two guys are what I remember of their offense.
Campbell wasn't the key to their offensive production, but I believe what the OP is referring to is can JJ become a 'good' QB that won't lose games for LSU? Matt Flynn, Matt Mauck, neither were highlight reel QBs that put up stupid numbers, but BOTH led LSU to BCSNCG Championship seasons.
Posted by Tigerntx
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Posted on 8/12/11 at 7:47 pm to
Here -Here
Posted by jlsutiger
Member since Nov 2004
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Posted on 8/12/11 at 7:50 pm to
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Matt Mauck, neither were highlight reel QBs that put up stupid numbers
you DO realize Mauck set the LSU record for most TD passes (28) in a season in 2003 right? Jefferson has started for 2 plus seasons and has the same number career TD passes (28) as Mauck threw in the 2003 season alone.
Posted by Tigerfan7218
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Posted on 8/12/11 at 8:01 pm to
You do realize that the 2003 WR corps was one of the best if not the best in the history of LSU football right?
Posted by eman65
Member since Aug 2009
412 posts
Posted on 8/12/11 at 8:15 pm to
Can History Repeat? Yes Virginia, LSU and Oklahoma-New Orleans 2011 BCS National Championship. LSU 27-Oklahoma 14, BOOK IT !!
This post was edited on 8/13/11 at 8:03 am
Posted by jlsutiger
Member since Nov 2004
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Posted on 8/12/11 at 8:27 pm to
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You do realize that the 2003 WR corps was one of the best if not the best in the history of LSU football right?
sure, but that doesn't change the fact that Mauck set an LSU record for TD passes and the poster was incorrect to say "Mauck never put up stupid numbers.". How can the school record for TDs not be a "stupid number" by his definition?
This post was edited on 8/12/11 at 8:29 pm
Posted by Tigerfan7218
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 8/12/11 at 8:29 pm to
You're right in that regard, they were great numbers, but you can't honestly believe that the WR Corps has nothing to do with that disparity.
Posted by jlsutiger
Member since Nov 2004
3523 posts
Posted on 8/12/11 at 8:37 pm to
quote:

You're right in that regard, they were great numbers, but you can't honestly believe that the WR Corps has nothing to do with that disparity.
where did I say that? I didn't. I was merely correcting the poster that said Mauck didn't put up stupid numbers. I compared his 2003 TD passes to Jefferson's career TDs to show just how great Mauck's 2003 numbers were.
Posted by Tigerfan7218
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 8/12/11 at 8:46 pm to
You didn't, I was just trying to give a little credit to the WRs from that season...
Posted by Fishhead
Elmendorf, TX
Member since Jan 2008
12344 posts
Posted on 8/12/11 at 8:57 pm to
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I was merely correcting the poster that said Mauck didn't put up stupid numbers
All you proved is that NO LSU QB has ever put up stupid numbers. Landry Jones put up stupid numbers for OU last year. Matt Mauck managed the game and played within himself, and let those around him make him look really good.
Posted by Fishhead
Elmendorf, TX
Member since Jan 2008
12344 posts
Posted on 8/12/11 at 9:01 pm to
Mauck had 1000 fewer yds than Luck from last season, and 10 fewer TDs than Jones from last season (and nearly 2000 yds more than Mauck's record setting season!!!). Kellen Moore also puts up stupid numbers.

Fact is, I was referring to the Duck fan, knowing they are VERY into numbers. Numbers are overrated as evidenced by the numbers put up by the aforementioned 'stupid numbers' guys, and their shared lack of crystal footballs.
This post was edited on 8/12/11 at 9:03 pm
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 8/12/11 at 9:12 pm to
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Matt Mauck managed the game


He was not a game manager qb

He threw 28 TD's and took a lot of risks throwing a few picks
Posted by Fishhead
Elmendorf, TX
Member since Jan 2008
12344 posts
Posted on 8/12/11 at 9:16 pm to
He was a game manager. He also had more opportunity due to a defense that was smothering, and didn't allow the opposition to control the clock. I won't say the WRs were the reason he was successful, as there have been better corps of WRs at LSU than what he had, although his were good.

And again, whether he was (in your opinion or mine) a game manager or not, he did not put up 'stupid numbers'. Just stupid numbers for an LSU/SEC QB.
Posted by Fishhead
Elmendorf, TX
Member since Jan 2008
12344 posts
Posted on 8/12/11 at 9:16 pm to
Flynn took a lot of risks too, and threw a shiteload of picks in '07. But he knew when to manage the game.
Posted by rickyh
Positiger Nation
Member since Dec 2003
12708 posts
Posted on 8/12/11 at 9:19 pm to
What SEC quarterback in the last 15 years threw for stupid numbers. This is the SEC where championships are won and defense is played. Put those quarterbacks in the SEC and see if they can even stay healthy through a whole season.
Posted by Fishhead
Elmendorf, TX
Member since Jan 2008
12344 posts
Posted on 8/12/11 at 9:21 pm to
Exactly. We don't play stupid numbers football in the SEC...which was my point in the first post I made.
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