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Tim Hudson and Stubbs for what pitcher...
Posted on 6/2/11 at 11:32 pm
Posted on 6/2/11 at 11:32 pm
I'm thinking of packaging these two together to upgrade my pitching staff just a little. I'm pretty comfortable with my current Outfield and I feel like hitting is not going to be a problem with my team.
For the teams in my league that need outfield help here is the pitchers I'm hoping I could get in return. I know some of these guys are pretty much untouchable, just want to get an idea of who you guys think I should set my standards for in return.
Their OF's in parenthesis.
Team 1 - Hanson, Lester (Berkman, Ludwick, Markakis, Delmon Young, Ethier)
Team 2 - Ubaldo, Jurrjens, Beckett (Chris Young, Span, Gordon, McCutchen, Franklin Gutierez)
Team 3 - Josh Johnson, Marcum (L. Scott, D. Brown, Swisher, Gardner, Stanton)
Team 4 - Buckholz (DeJesus, Fowler,Gomes, Adam Jones, Ryan Roberts)
Team 5 - Kershaw, Oswalt, Pineda (C. Patterson, B. Francisco, Crisp, Boesch, Zobrist, Werth)
For the teams in my league that need outfield help here is the pitchers I'm hoping I could get in return. I know some of these guys are pretty much untouchable, just want to get an idea of who you guys think I should set my standards for in return.
Their OF's in parenthesis.
Team 1 - Hanson, Lester (Berkman, Ludwick, Markakis, Delmon Young, Ethier)
Team 2 - Ubaldo, Jurrjens, Beckett (Chris Young, Span, Gordon, McCutchen, Franklin Gutierez)
Team 3 - Josh Johnson, Marcum (L. Scott, D. Brown, Swisher, Gardner, Stanton)
Team 4 - Buckholz (DeJesus, Fowler,Gomes, Adam Jones, Ryan Roberts)
Team 5 - Kershaw, Oswalt, Pineda (C. Patterson, B. Francisco, Crisp, Boesch, Zobrist, Werth)
This post was edited on 6/3/11 at 9:51 am
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Posted on 6/2/11 at 11:36 pm to MrWiseGuy
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Team 3 - Josh Johnson, Marcum (L. Scott, D. Brown, Swisher, Gardner, Stanton)
Go for these two. I love both of those pitchers and you may have a chance with JJ on the DL. Plus, his outfield blows.
Posted on 6/2/11 at 11:50 pm to MrWiseGuy
I wouldnt touch JJ unless you want to worry about him hitting the DL every time he hits the mound. They all need OF help so it is a doable deal. I'd go after Kershaw, Pineada, Marcum, Ubaldo, or Hanson. Ubaldo is poised for a strong bounce back from his rough start and may be cheaper than the rest.
Posted on 6/3/11 at 7:20 am to MrWiseGuy
D. Hudson or T. Hudson?
Posted on 6/3/11 at 9:49 am to papz
Crap, I totally forgot there was another Hudson. Im trading Timmy Hudson.
Posted on 6/3/11 at 10:24 am to MrWiseGuy
Now's a good time to trade Stubbs. His value won't be any higher at any point for the rest of the season.
Realistically I think you can get a guy like Hanson or Lester. Lester may also be a buy low candidate given his recent struggles. He's been ridiculously consistent throughout hsi career, so he'll likely level out.
Johnson and Marcum are good, but they might be overvalued based on their performance up to now (Johnson I'm also worried about injuries). I would still take Lester and Hanson over Marcum, and Johnson just scares me.
Realistically I think you can get a guy like Hanson or Lester. Lester may also be a buy low candidate given his recent struggles. He's been ridiculously consistent throughout hsi career, so he'll likely level out.
Johnson and Marcum are good, but they might be overvalued based on their performance up to now (Johnson I'm also worried about injuries). I would still take Lester and Hanson over Marcum, and Johnson just scares me.
Posted on 6/3/11 at 10:45 am to ATL_Tiger
Can I do the deal for Oswalt ? Or is that not near the value that I need to get for the two together ?
Posted on 6/3/11 at 10:45 am to MrWiseGuy
If I were a Kershaw owner, I definitely listen. One person I wouldn't be targeting off that list for that package, Buchholz.
Posted on 6/3/11 at 10:57 am to MrWiseGuy
Hanson, Lester, Kershaw, Marcum, Ubaldo, Pineda, and Buchholz > Oswalt.
Trust me. I'm an Oswalt owner. He has been pretty average. I think you can do better.
Trust me. I'm an Oswalt owner. He has been pretty average. I think you can do better.
Posted on 6/3/11 at 12:04 pm to ATL_Tiger
quote:
Johnson and Marcum are good, but they might be overvalued based on their performance up to now (Johnson I'm also worried about injuries). I would still take Lester and Hanson over Marcum, and Johnson just scares me.
I don't think JJ is overvalued. He is a stud in just about every start. I recognize that he can be an injury risk, but he is just amazing.
Posted on 6/3/11 at 12:19 pm to Vicks Kennel Club
That's the point. Someone is going to demand a lot for him despite the fact that he's an injury risk.
Also, do you really think he's going to put up an ERA sub 2, a whip under 1, and go 7 innings per start like he's been doing? His pace wasn't sustainable, and now that injuries have kicked in, it's even more far fetched.
Also, do you really think he's going to put up an ERA sub 2, a whip under 1, and go 7 innings per start like he's been doing? His pace wasn't sustainable, and now that injuries have kicked in, it's even more far fetched.
Posted on 6/3/11 at 12:44 pm to ATL_Tiger
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Also, do you really think he's going to put up an ERA sub 2, a whip under 1, and go 7 innings per start like he's been doing?
Close to at least. His numbers last year were spectactular, and this year so far, and the next, and the next...
This is why he will always be on my fantasy team. Pitches like a first rounder, but you can get him a little cheaper or later in a draft because he is an injury risk.
Posted on 6/3/11 at 1:42 pm to Vicks Kennel Club
Would it be out of the question to make the offer for Ubaldo ?
So guys most agree on I should go after..
Lester, Marcum, Kershaw, Pineda, Hanson.
Definitely no go's
Oswalt and Buckholz.
Maybe's if I'm willing to take the risk
Josh Johnson. Does Ubaldo go in this group or in the definitely go after group ?
So guys most agree on I should go after..
Lester, Marcum, Kershaw, Pineda, Hanson.
Definitely no go's
Oswalt and Buckholz.
Maybe's if I'm willing to take the risk
Josh Johnson. Does Ubaldo go in this group or in the definitely go after group ?
Posted on 6/3/11 at 1:52 pm to MrWiseGuy
I'd take any one of them besides the other two. With that said, if there's going to be an inning limit on Pineda, I might shy away from him too... but it would be only because of that.
Posted on 6/3/11 at 2:00 pm to papz
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inning limit on Pineda
Yeh, I was thinking of that too.
Posted on 6/4/11 at 7:20 pm to MrWiseGuy
bump for Ricky Romero or Matt Cain. His team outfield consist of.... Huff, Carlos Lee, Damon, Morrison, Abreu, Ellsbury.
So would it be a good deal for me to offer T Hudson and Stubbs for Romero or Matt Cain ?
I'm hoping for Tommy Hanson, but can I settle for Romero or Cain in this type of package deal ?
So would it be a good deal for me to offer T Hudson and Stubbs for Romero or Matt Cain ?
I'm hoping for Tommy Hanson, but can I settle for Romero or Cain in this type of package deal ?
This post was edited on 6/4/11 at 7:41 pm
Posted on 6/4/11 at 7:53 pm to MrWiseGuy
Go for Hanson then. Stubbs has played very well and should be a worthy piece in a trade.
Posted on 6/15/11 at 1:16 pm to Vicks Kennel Club
quote:
I don't think JJ is overvalued. He is a stud in just about every start. I recognize that he can be an injury risk, but he is just amazing.
Hoping this guy didn't trade for JJ...
Posted on 6/15/11 at 3:41 pm to ATL_Tiger
I couldn't get a deal done for shite with anyone.
I offered Huddy+ Stubbs for Romero, Beckett, Hanson. No bites.
Then I offered Cahill+Gio+Stubbs for Halladay (this guy had Josh Johnson and I told him about JJ probably not pitching the ROS)
All declined.
I offered Huddy+ Stubbs for Romero, Beckett, Hanson. No bites.
Then I offered Cahill+Gio+Stubbs for Halladay (this guy had Josh Johnson and I told him about JJ probably not pitching the ROS)
All declined.
Posted on 6/15/11 at 6:05 pm to MrWiseGuy
ive been trying to package hudson in a trade as well. i really want kershaw for the k's, but dude won't budge..
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