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re: The BCS has been undeniably kind to LSU

Posted on 5/29/11 at 2:50 am to
Posted by Tigerfan7218
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 5/29/11 at 2:50 am to
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plus i like all the other bowls its a good tradition coupled with the best way to keep the regular season to mean something.


So why would you have to get rid of the bowls to have a playoff? Would they be as successful? No. Would they be profitable? No one knows, but I'd bet yes.

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with the playoffs the hottest team wins it sometimes and others its the best.


So if you are considered the "best" team but lose in the playoffs, then aren't you, by definition, not the best anymore? I get what you are saying, just think we should have a better way to decide.

Just FYI I did an argumentative paper on playoff vs. BCS for an english class, got a 100 and actually convinced my professor that a playoff done correctly is better, but you don't want to hear my system because it'd probably just piss you off and start shite.



Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
138974 posts
Posted on 5/29/11 at 2:53 am to
wouldn't piss me off but i just dont believe 8 teams are deserving every year.
Id bend as far as a plus one wouldn't upset me i just dont even think that is needed since half the time it really wouldn't have made the season any better.

fwiw i like a good debate on the issue and id agree that something had to change if an 04 auburn situation happened more often.
Posted by Indiana Tiger
Member since Feb 2005
4058 posts
Posted on 5/29/11 at 6:50 am to
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Just FYI I did an argumentative paper on playoff vs. BCS for an english class, got a 100 and actually convinced my professor that a playoff done correctly is better, but you don't want to hear my system because it'd probably just piss you off and start shite.

I would retroactively flunk your arse for writing something as stupid as this, but I digress. Can a playoff be designed that would minimize the impact on the regular season? Yes. A small playoff that does not include autoqualifiers will do just that. However, as soon as you get to 8 teams BCS conferences will insist on AQs for financial reasons. AQs is what has the biggest detrimental impact on the regular season.

The problem with AQs is that the basis for the AQ will be conference championship, and not the overall record. Theoretically, teams with 4 or 5 losses could, and over time will, make the playoffs (conference CGs only exacerbate the problem). In the BCS this cannot happen at all.

In the BCS, because of the SOS component in the models, every game played can have an impact on who goes. This doesn't mean that every game is decisive, only that it could be (e.g. flip the outcome of the Boise/Hawaii game in 2003 and USC goes to the CG instead of us). This makes people who normally wouldn't give a rat's arse about a game to take note. It enhances the regular season. In addition, it's very difficult to get a handle on what matters and doesn't until the very end.

AQs, or the first step to be an AQ (i.e. win your division), can be determined much earlier. At that point subsequent regular season games can become like exhibition games. One of college football great rivalries is the Ohio State - Michigan game (IRL this one may not matter anymore due to the Big 10 realignment, IDK, but the concept is valid regardless). Imagine a situation where one team has the division in the bag when the game is played. While it's unfortunate that the underdog will no longer be able to screw their rival big time, I don't think that will subdue passions. However, for the rest who think this game is just two jackasses fighting over a turnip, it will. And that really diminishes the game imo.

I could go on about the lesser meaning of OOC games, but that's just piling on. The bottom line is that any playoff with AQs will have a major negative impact on the regular season. It's also maive to think that an 8 team or more playoff would be implemented without AQs.
This post was edited on 5/29/11 at 6:53 am
Posted by KingofthePoint
Member since Feb 2009
10159 posts
Posted on 5/29/11 at 11:59 am to
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So if you are considered the "best" team but lose in the playoffs, then aren't you, by definition, not the best anymore? I get what you are saying, just think we should have a better way to decide.


First off, let me say that I am okay with having a playoff as long as there aren't more than 4-6 teams.

Basketball is an example of why playoffs do not crown the best team. Basketball is a sport where upsets happen alot. It takes many games to determine which teams are the best. This is why people, including myself, put greater emphasis on the regular season. Duke wasn't the best team last year. They just won 6 games in a row.
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