hardly, just bc I don't buy every conspiracy some of you are throwing around, doesn't mean I'm on the complete opposite end of the spectrum. The man wasn't chained to his desk, but I can live w/ that as long as the product is as great as it's been. Some ppl seem to take it personally w/ the things being said that he's taken this long.

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Of course it could be the biggest piece of shite ever published, but there are some fans that will think it's the greatest thing ever published.

and you'd have guys like those at finish the book GRRM that'll bitch ab it regardless if it's the best in the series. goes both ways.

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Posted by PurpleandGold Motown

Birmingham, Alabama

Member since Oct 2007

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Posted on 4/27/11 at 8:30 pm to Books

Nah. I don't think there is some grand conspiracy. I did think they were holding the publish date until after the series premiere so they could catch the roll over publicity, but that's hardly a conspiracy. That's just marketing.

I really think George is just full of himself and a bit lazy. He's content to rest on his laurels, and more than a little intimidated by what he has created.

The way he treats his fans or they allow themselves to be treated is kind of sickening. The whole brotherhood without banners questing thing is weird. If he tried to send me out for pizza I would punch him in the throat. I've met a lot of authors in my day (my sis was the special events coordinator for Books a Million) and he by far is the biggest jerk I've met.

I'll read the novel when it comes out, but I'll probably just pick it up at the library or download it from the library to my nook. Like I've said before I'm kind of over multiple POV epic novels. I will give him credit where credit is due, but I'm honestly not expecting a whole lot from this book.

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Posted by Ray_G

Baton Rouge

Member since Sep 2005

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Posted on 4/27/11 at 8:40 pm to Books

I didn't write this. Comes from another board I frequent, but it's a good recap of the last five years of Wild Cards and lemoncakes.

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What are you all waiting for, anyway? What could be worth this?

The fifth and final* volume of GEORGE R.R. MARTIN'S A SONG OF ICE AND FIRE will be tited A Dance with Dragons. When he finished Feast in 2005, he said that Dance was half-done and would be published the next year. 2006 came and went, with no progress. So did 2007. In 2008, the GRRM posted on his blog that he should be done that year, and his publisher promised a release date of September 30th. The GRRM said he would need to be finished with the manuscript by June in order to accomplish this. He was not.

In February of 2009, the GRRM posted again that he would try to be finished by June, for a publication date in September or October. He said "I think I can do that." He could not.

He pushed the date for completion back to September or October. He missed those, too. He temporarily stopped giving estimates on his completion.

On October 10th, 2010, his publisher reported that the book had only 5 chapters remaining unfinished, and that they expected to have the completed manuscript by December. Viconia, in a gleeful frenzy, closed the current iteration of the Bad Thread and posted her own, proclaiming to the heavens that there were only five chapters left. December came and went; in an interview, the GRRM claimed he was almost done. 2010 ended without seeing a completed manuscript.

In January 2011, the GRRM posted that he had recently had a near miss with death, by means of a urinary tract infection that progressed to generalized sepsis. There was much wailing and gnashing of teeth in The Bad Thread that he had not, in fact, died.

On March 3rd, 2011, the publisher set yet another release date, this one for July 12th, 2011. The GRRM proclaimed his commitment to meeting this deadline, saying that all the other release dates had been "wishful thinking, boundless optimism, cockeyed dreams, [and] honest mistakes."

The book is not done.

*Although the series will require at least two more novels to wrap up all the story lines, if not more, the GRRM will not live long enough to complete them. Even in the unexpected outcome that he manages to finish Dance before he dies, the rest is going to have to come from the work of another author. Brandon Sanderson comes to mind.