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To all Oregon lovers - 2 wins against winning record teams?
Posted on 11/9/10 at 1:59 pm
Posted on 11/9/10 at 1:59 pm
Now, don't get me wrong, I think Oregon has a fabulously exciting offense, Their productivity in yardage and scoring sure are impressive.
However, I would like to call to mind 2 facts
1) Oregon has beaten/played a total of 2 TEAMS with a winning record in 2010...-AND-....
2) Recall all of those years when the likes of Texas, Oklahoma, Florida beat unranked after unranked team to the tune of 56-7 or so, only to get held to very modest yardage and point totals when facing a "REAL DEFENSE"?
Here are the current national rankings of the teams they have put those numbers up against:
Losing Record opponents (7):
New Mexico (1-8) 118th defense
Tenn (3-6) 78th defense
Port St (2-7) N/A - Not FBS opponent
Ariz St (4-5) 48th defense
Wash St (1-9) 120th defense
UCLA (4-5) 83rd defense
Wash (3-6) 107th defense
Winning Record opponents (2):
Stanford (8-1) 37th defense
USC (6-3) 107th defense
Summary of achievement:
2 wins against winning opponents
1 win against a winning program with a top 40 defense (Stanford)
Granted, Oregon has great athletes, but so did all those 9 and 10 win Texas, Oklahoma, Florida and Ohio State type teams over the years UNTIL they faced teams with a real defense.
Oregon has very little to really hang their hat on despite a lot of impressive offensive performances against a host of poor opponents.
The pollsters love exciting offense, so they have not even come close to breaking it all down. Of course, going 9-0 and being one of the only unbeatens does make them worthy of being highly ranked, but the lack of accomplishments should be taken into consideration, and that goes for Stanford also who have built up thier 8-1 record against the same trash teams with losing records and/or porous defenses.
However, I would like to call to mind 2 facts
1) Oregon has beaten/played a total of 2 TEAMS with a winning record in 2010...-AND-....
2) Recall all of those years when the likes of Texas, Oklahoma, Florida beat unranked after unranked team to the tune of 56-7 or so, only to get held to very modest yardage and point totals when facing a "REAL DEFENSE"?
Here are the current national rankings of the teams they have put those numbers up against:
Losing Record opponents (7):
New Mexico (1-8) 118th defense
Tenn (3-6) 78th defense
Port St (2-7) N/A - Not FBS opponent
Ariz St (4-5) 48th defense
Wash St (1-9) 120th defense
UCLA (4-5) 83rd defense
Wash (3-6) 107th defense
Winning Record opponents (2):
Stanford (8-1) 37th defense
USC (6-3) 107th defense
Summary of achievement:
2 wins against winning opponents
1 win against a winning program with a top 40 defense (Stanford)
Granted, Oregon has great athletes, but so did all those 9 and 10 win Texas, Oklahoma, Florida and Ohio State type teams over the years UNTIL they faced teams with a real defense.
Oregon has very little to really hang their hat on despite a lot of impressive offensive performances against a host of poor opponents.
The pollsters love exciting offense, so they have not even come close to breaking it all down. Of course, going 9-0 and being one of the only unbeatens does make them worthy of being highly ranked, but the lack of accomplishments should be taken into consideration, and that goes for Stanford also who have built up thier 8-1 record against the same trash teams with losing records and/or porous defenses.
This post was edited on 11/9/10 at 2:02 pm
Posted on 11/9/10 at 2:03 pm to therocketscientist
quote:
To all Oregon lovers - 2 wins against winning record teams?
Now, don't get me wrong, I think Oregon has a fabulously exciting offense, Their productivity in yardage and scoring sure are impressive.
However, I would like to call to mind 2 facts
This is all fine and dandy. But to be Honest UO would run all over LSU. LSU could not keep up the pace. I don't care who they have beaten. Its the WAY in which they have beaten these teams. I think Stanford and LSU are about = and look at what The Ducks did to them.
Posted on 11/9/10 at 2:03 pm to therocketscientist
Yeah, Oregon's opponents have been weak outside of Stanford. I guess USC still has some talent too. But damn they sure look good beating up on those crap teams. I;d love to see them in the NC game. They play in a real conference so they are still more deserving than TCU/Boise. Plus, they blew up Tenn, which is a bad team, but no one in the SEC has dominated them that way.
Posted on 11/9/10 at 2:05 pm to therocketscientist
What's Oregons opponent W/L record?
Posted on 11/9/10 at 2:07 pm to therocketscientist
This is why I don't understand why AU isn't #1. AU has played more games too. It just POs me!
Posted on 11/9/10 at 3:15 pm to therocketscientist
I think they should make a card with Les on it. They have SVP and Corso, why not add Les?
Posted on 11/9/10 at 4:06 pm to therocketscientist
Through 9 games:
713 Plays. (79 Snaps per game)
5,105 yards of offense. (567 yards per game)
65 offensive TD's.
115th in time of possesion.
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I don't care who they play. That's fricking awesome.
713 Plays. (79 Snaps per game)
5,105 yards of offense. (567 yards per game)
65 offensive TD's.
115th in time of possesion.
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I don't care who they play. That's fricking awesome.
Posted on 11/9/10 at 4:19 pm to therocketscientist
I'm with you on this. While Oregon has beaten teams like a drum - these are not good teams...just Boise St. and TCU have played weaker schedules. Now - if LSU's entire schedule was made up of weaker teams - don't you think we would have a game plan to put them away similar to what Oregon has done? Come on people - when we play the lower rund teams - we come out with the most basic stuff we can because we play a ton of very good teams. I just don't understand how pollsters can even compare a TCU/ Boise St./ Oregon with an Auburn or LSU for that matter.
Combined Opponents' Records For Top 5 BCS:
Oregon: 48-60
Auburn: 67-43
TCU: 52-59
Boise St.: 53-55
LSU: 66-42
This isn't even close in comparison - NOT CLOSE. Oregon's best wins - Stanford (good) USC (Avg. at best). TCU - Baylor (above avg) Utah (Come on - who has Utah beaten) - Boice St. - Virginia Tech (lost to James Madison - end of discussion) and Hawaii (below avg.) - that is it? That's what the pollsters are basing top 5 rankings on this year? Auburn has beaten - Miss. St., South Carolina, Ark and LSU...while LSU has beaten North Carolina, West Virginia, Miss. St, Florida and Bama.
I really think this guy is on to something: LINK
Combined Opponents' Records For Top 5 BCS:
Oregon: 48-60
Auburn: 67-43
TCU: 52-59
Boise St.: 53-55
LSU: 66-42
This isn't even close in comparison - NOT CLOSE. Oregon's best wins - Stanford (good) USC (Avg. at best). TCU - Baylor (above avg) Utah (Come on - who has Utah beaten) - Boice St. - Virginia Tech (lost to James Madison - end of discussion) and Hawaii (below avg.) - that is it? That's what the pollsters are basing top 5 rankings on this year? Auburn has beaten - Miss. St., South Carolina, Ark and LSU...while LSU has beaten North Carolina, West Virginia, Miss. St, Florida and Bama.
I really think this guy is on to something: LINK
Posted on 11/9/10 at 8:44 pm to therocketscientist
The ducks will lose one game, bet on it.
Posted on 11/9/10 at 8:58 pm to therocketscientist
I got u wrong, u hate Oregon!
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