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re: Reality Check: LSU has never been an elite SEC program
Posted on 10/25/10 at 9:16 pm to im4LSU
Posted on 10/25/10 at 9:16 pm to im4LSU
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no i just dont argue with dumb people, i laugh at them
You must live someplace covered floor to ceiling with mirrors.
This post was edited on 10/25/10 at 9:23 pm
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Posted on 10/25/10 at 9:17 pm to pdxlsufan
Hey pd, easy to have an elite record when you play ULM right?
Posted on 10/25/10 at 9:20 pm to pdxlsufan
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LSU, Georgia and Auburn are highly competitive, but NOT elite.
WHAT? THE? frick?
Georgia has not won a national title in 30 years. Auburn has not won in over 50. LSU has two in the last 7. Since 2000 they have more BCS bowl wins than every SEC team other than Florida and have more wins than every other SEC other than, yes, Florida.
I haven't read this whole thred but I hope to frick you got your imbecilic arse rightfully flamed.
You sir are a fricking idiot!
This post was edited on 10/25/10 at 9:23 pm
Posted on 10/25/10 at 9:21 pm to ulmtiger
Given our display of elite awesomeness against McNeese, I won't comment on our elite potential against ULM. :)
Posted on 10/25/10 at 9:22 pm to pdxlsufan
The OP is definitely not among the elite, when it comes to making fricking sense.
Posted on 10/25/10 at 9:22 pm to pdxlsufan
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Since the inception of the SECCG, Florida and Bama have clearly been the best teams in the SEC.
You mean Alabama's two SECCG victories trumps LSU's three? How amazing!
Posted on 10/25/10 at 9:24 pm to Hitchcock
Arnsparger left LSU for an athletic director position that not many others would have turned away. He was an NFL coach - pure and simple - who had little savy of the college game...especially the recruiting process.
Bill knew what he was doing when he left LSU, which is why we suffered a good bit, as he decided to "honestly" tell Blockhead and Dean that Mike Archer, barely 34, was the right man for the job. If I was leaving to take on another competitive job and got to name my successor, I also would name someone who I know wouldn't be able to beat me. Arnsparger indeed used LSU, but Saban hardly did. Arnsparger thrived off of Stovall's recruits and when he saw the ship sinking, he jumped off and left to take a position that would forever be in competition with LSU. No other colleges were knocking on his door and his 0-3 bowl record was part cause. Bill didn't wanna stick around to try to clean up a mess that he helped create. Go ask anyone who was at the Liberty Bowl or part of that 1985 team and get their opinion of just how uch Arnsparger didn't give a damn.
Saban never intended on coming to LSU to make it a stepping stine job, The job MADE HIM. He also made LSU, but no NFL teams were knocking on hsi door prior to what he did with the awesome cupboard of talent he had to work with at LSU. NOt many coaches, if any, are going to leave LSU to take another college job. Lateral move at best is what they can afford to find if they do.
While I am not a fan of Miles, this isn't about him. This program has every bit a chance to be elite from here on...as much as any, along with Texas, Alabama, USC, and the Florida universities. Recruiting base and warm weather and big stadiums and night games equates to big time success. LSU is one of the authors of the night game, too.
Bill knew what he was doing when he left LSU, which is why we suffered a good bit, as he decided to "honestly" tell Blockhead and Dean that Mike Archer, barely 34, was the right man for the job. If I was leaving to take on another competitive job and got to name my successor, I also would name someone who I know wouldn't be able to beat me. Arnsparger indeed used LSU, but Saban hardly did. Arnsparger thrived off of Stovall's recruits and when he saw the ship sinking, he jumped off and left to take a position that would forever be in competition with LSU. No other colleges were knocking on his door and his 0-3 bowl record was part cause. Bill didn't wanna stick around to try to clean up a mess that he helped create. Go ask anyone who was at the Liberty Bowl or part of that 1985 team and get their opinion of just how uch Arnsparger didn't give a damn.
Saban never intended on coming to LSU to make it a stepping stine job, The job MADE HIM. He also made LSU, but no NFL teams were knocking on hsi door prior to what he did with the awesome cupboard of talent he had to work with at LSU. NOt many coaches, if any, are going to leave LSU to take another college job. Lateral move at best is what they can afford to find if they do.
While I am not a fan of Miles, this isn't about him. This program has every bit a chance to be elite from here on...as much as any, along with Texas, Alabama, USC, and the Florida universities. Recruiting base and warm weather and big stadiums and night games equates to big time success. LSU is one of the authors of the night game, too.
Posted on 10/25/10 at 9:28 pm to pdxlsufan
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I'm an SEC homer so I would argue that Bama and Florida are better over the last 20 years.
LSU is more succesful than Florida over the last 50. Florida did not win a single SEC Championship before Spurrrier (officially). That's a good near 60 years without a single Conference championship. We can do 50 years if you want to count the title the were stripped of. LSU had seven by the time Spurrier came along.
It seems the time frame necessary to be elite shifts to fit the example that runs counter to your idiotic thesis.
This post was edited on 10/25/10 at 9:31 pm
Posted on 10/25/10 at 9:29 pm to Hitchcock
3 SEC champs. this decade and 2 NC's??
this is a stupid arse post.
if you're going to say elite over an extended time, Tenn. has a pretty damn good record too.
nevermind, ya'll have at this one.
this is a stupid arse post.
if you're going to say elite over an extended time, Tenn. has a pretty damn good record too.
nevermind, ya'll have at this one.
Posted on 10/25/10 at 9:32 pm to pdxlsufan
pd, A check will show an embarassed Ala and Saban. Do you recall the score. Ala is not elite. Ala has had a couple of decent years rapped around many shitty. To think otherwise is to be living in the past. A time that wouldnt understand how high the bar could be set by elite LSU football teams of this decade. Ala football is like an old antique car.
Posted on 10/25/10 at 9:32 pm to pdxlsufan
pdxlsufan I agree. We definitely don't have the coach to stay at the level of Bama. We likely will never compete with Saban and most top SEC teams going forward as long as Miles is our coach. We had a short run for about 6 or 7 years that were as good as anybody elses SEC run give or take a couple of other 7 year periods. Since Miles has been here we have witnessed a decline. We did not really have any business hiring him if we planned to stay competitive. 100% agreement. We will be a 2nd tier team as long as Miles is here. With the right coach and a good hire we can have another 6 or 7 year run like we just had. Pxlsu if we do you can knock our history as much as you want as long as we are winning championships in that time I don't care. LSU has never been elite and never will be till we hire an elite coach. Meyer (pre-meltdown) Saban, Spurrier (Florida days) etc. are elite coaches Miles is not.
Posted on 10/25/10 at 9:34 pm to Morgus
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LSU is more succesful than Florida over the last 50. Florida did not win a single SEC Championship before Spurrrier (officially). That's a good near 60 years without a single Conference championship.
And it Damn scarey how fast they overtook LSU isn't it?
That "Fire 'da Coach" thing every 4 years really worked out well for LSU.
"Doing the same thing over & over & expecting different results"....damn that sounds familiar.
This post was edited on 10/25/10 at 9:38 pm
Posted on 10/25/10 at 9:34 pm to pdxlsufan
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But I dare say Florida and Bama have a far better claim than we do and I'm sure most of the national media would agree.
Bama perhaps, Florida, no. Florida is actually behind LSU in actual winning percentage. Only three teams in the SEC have a better winning percentage than LSU. They are Alabama, UGA, and Tennessee.
Posted on 10/25/10 at 9:37 pm to pdxlsufan
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I won't comment on our elite potential against ULM. :)
The same ULM that beat the elite Alabama a few years ago?
Posted on 10/25/10 at 9:39 pm to pdxlsufan
Worst Post ever.
You say we need more crystal balls to be elite like Florida? Both programs have 3 National titles. LSU has tons of trdaition and has been elite since 2001. And if we claimed the same National Titles that Bama claims then we could have 7. We just dont. Your and idiot.
You say we need more crystal balls to be elite like Florida? Both programs have 3 National titles. LSU has tons of trdaition and has been elite since 2001. And if we claimed the same National Titles that Bama claims then we could have 7. We just dont. Your and idiot.
Posted on 10/25/10 at 9:40 pm to Hitchcock
Here's a kicker for you: Tulane had three SEC championships before Florida's first. One of them was outright. TULANE!
This post was edited on 10/25/10 at 9:42 pm
Posted on 10/25/10 at 9:43 pm to jdg91878
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Florida and Bama both started their run in the 90s,
Bama owned the SEC throughout the '60's and '70's.
This post was edited on 10/25/10 at 9:44 pm
Posted on 10/25/10 at 9:46 pm to Morgus
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Here's a kicker for you: Tulane had three SEC championships before Florida's first. TULANE!
Here's another kicker:
LSU last lost to Tulane in 1982. Alan Risher was generally blamed. LSU's QB coach was Mack Brown.
Posted on 10/25/10 at 9:49 pm to Tchefuncte Tiger
Yea, Ala and Saban looked worse than Les against a bad ULM team. Not sure Mcneese wasnt better than ulm team that beat Bama. Nothing elite about Ala. They obviously were good last year but otherwise pretty average at best this decade and who cares about ball pre passing.
Posted on 10/25/10 at 9:50 pm to pdxlsufan
I am tired of your BS. you list yourself as being in Oregon, stay there with it.
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