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JJ and Co. ranked 5th at QB position according to Chris Low

Posted on 7/20/10 at 4:04 pm
Posted by BayAreaTigerFan
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Posted on 7/20/10 at 4:04 pm
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5. LSU: Even though Jordan Jefferson didn’t clearly separate himself this spring, he’s coming off a decent season numbers-wise. He just needs to take that next step and be more instinctive. Part of the reason the Tigers gave up so many sacks a year ago was because he held onto the ball too long. If Jefferson doesn’t play well early, he has Jarrett Lee on his heels. Lee outplayed Jefferson at times this spring, but he’s also the same guy who threw 16 interceptions two years ago -- seven of those returned for touchdowns.
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Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 7/20/10 at 4:09 pm to
Very generic but accurate. Its JJ's year to make his offense better.
Posted by Jaydeaux
Covington
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Posted on 7/20/10 at 4:14 pm to
wow the tools on here will go bonkers arguing that.

JJ held on to the ball too long... GASP

JL outplayed JJ in the spring..... GASP

Rant on haters lol
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 7/20/10 at 4:16 pm to
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Its JJ's year to make his offense better.


or JL.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 7/20/10 at 4:18 pm to
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or JL.


If Jefferson is bad enough that he needs to be replaced by Lee, then it's going to be a very long season.
Posted by SouthOfSouth
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 7/20/10 at 4:18 pm to
I thought u were talking ab team not qb position...
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
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Posted on 7/20/10 at 4:21 pm to
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If Jefferson is bad enough that he needs to be replaced by Lee, then it's going to be a very long season.


Only if your assumption is that JJ can improve and JL cannot improve, which would be totally wrong and a bit surprising coming from you.
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
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Posted on 7/20/10 at 4:22 pm to
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If Jefferson is bad enough that he needs to be replaced by Lee, then it's going to be a very long season.




bet you were one unhappy camper after spring game.


You "JJ is head and shoulders above JL" people never cease to amaze me.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 7/20/10 at 4:23 pm to
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wow the tools on here will go bonkers arguing that.

JJ held on to the ball too long... GASP

JL outplayed JJ in the spring..... GASP


Absolutely nothing to argue, these are pretty much taken for fact, outside a few myopic individuals.

What happens this season is more important, and JJ can shut everyone up by making his offense better. Its all on him, not a bunch of internet banter.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
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Posted on 7/20/10 at 4:27 pm to
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Only if your assumption is that JJ can improve and JL cannot improve, which would be totally wrong and a bit surprising coming from you.


Personally, I don't think either can make drastic improvements under Crowton unless Gonzales really is as incredible a coach as some believe him to be.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 7/20/10 at 4:40 pm to
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Personally, I don't think either can make drastic improvements under Crowton unless Gonzales really is as incredible a coach as some believe him to be.


Yeah, kinda my point of view too but feel both can benefit in the long run from basic experience.
Posted by Fishhead
Elmendorf, TX
Member since Jan 2008
12462 posts
Posted on 7/20/10 at 4:43 pm to
Nah, neither will ever get any better. Name a QB that improved from his true sophomore to junior to senior season...
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49048 posts
Posted on 7/20/10 at 4:44 pm to
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bet you were one unhappy camper after spring game.


Yeah, they were both awful in the spring game. How is that supposed to make me feel any different about my statement?


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You "JJ is head and shoulders above JL" people never cease to amaze me


Comparing 2008 and 2009, Jefferson is clearly better than Lee. Now, I won't go as far to say "head and shoulders" better. But definitely better.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49048 posts
Posted on 7/20/10 at 4:46 pm to
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Nah, neither will ever get any better. Name a QB that improved from his true sophomore to junior to senior season...


Ok, now name one that has done so with Gary Crowton running the offense.
Posted by Fishhead
Elmendorf, TX
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 7/20/10 at 4:48 pm to
Touche'...but I haven't kept up with his QBs progressions at other jobs, and he hasn't had one go from sophomore to junior yet at LSU.
Posted by Sammobile
Hollywood South
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 7/20/10 at 4:49 pm to
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JJ and Co. ranked 5th at QB position according to Chris Low

alright





Posted by Fishhead
Elmendorf, TX
Member since Jan 2008
12462 posts
Posted on 7/20/10 at 4:49 pm to
Just reminding that JJ was a true sophomore, and his stats were as good or better than even some "superstar" QBs when they were true sophomores. Go check Rohan's sophomore stats, then his senior season. IMO, one of the top 3 QBs ever at LSU.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295317 posts
Posted on 7/20/10 at 4:49 pm to
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Comparing 2008 and 2009, Jefferson is clearly better than Lee. Now, I won't go as far to say "head and shoulders" better. But definitely better.



In some areas, definitely, but not all.
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 7/20/10 at 4:54 pm to
granted a spring game isnt the most ideal measuring stick but in all fairness and in most other LSU fan's pov's JJ was the awful one... JL certianly wasnt great but he clearly outperformed JJ... to say he was awful just isnt so.

Better than not throwing interceptions and taking off and running with it bc he doesnt know where to throw the ball.... yeah Ill agree he's def better there.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49048 posts
Posted on 7/20/10 at 4:55 pm to
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In some areas, definitely, but not all.


Other than pure arm strength, I'd be surprised to hear a convincing argument that Lee was "better" than Jefferson in a certain area. Now, realize this comes with the disclaimer that both may have been bad in the same area.
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