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In defense of MIles
Posted on 12/5/09 at 10:08 pm
Posted on 12/5/09 at 10:08 pm
I know I'm going to get flamed on by all the "fans" who want to fire Miles because he is not Saban, but just consider this. I'll hang up and listen after.
2008 and 2009 are the years in which we harvested the seeds sown from the recruiting class of 2005 and 2006. While it is well documented that we lost RP, leaving us high and dry for a QB, what no one else has acknowledged is that these were the years which the upper classmen were from the recruiting classes that Miles was recruiting as a transitional coach. Kids have to be recruited for their junior and senior year and Miles' first two classes did not fill the needs of the team and have the overall quality that 2007, 2008 and 2009 had. He also was forced to coach with what Saban had left him, whether or not they fit his philosophy. 2010 and 2011 will be years where he will have fully recruited the talent on his team.
It took me a long time to come around on Miles, but his recruiting has been superb. If he can't hack it in 2010 and 2011, I will probably jump ship on him.
2008 and 2009 are the years in which we harvested the seeds sown from the recruiting class of 2005 and 2006. While it is well documented that we lost RP, leaving us high and dry for a QB, what no one else has acknowledged is that these were the years which the upper classmen were from the recruiting classes that Miles was recruiting as a transitional coach. Kids have to be recruited for their junior and senior year and Miles' first two classes did not fill the needs of the team and have the overall quality that 2007, 2008 and 2009 had. He also was forced to coach with what Saban had left him, whether or not they fit his philosophy. 2010 and 2011 will be years where he will have fully recruited the talent on his team.
It took me a long time to come around on Miles, but his recruiting has been superb. If he can't hack it in 2010 and 2011, I will probably jump ship on him.
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Posted on 12/5/09 at 10:45 pm to TheHiddenFlask
Nobody has anything to say?
Posted on 12/5/09 at 10:48 pm to TheHiddenFlask
So he hasn't produced results from two recruiting classes, so we should give him an additional two years?
Makes perfect sense!
Makes perfect sense!
Posted on 12/5/09 at 10:49 pm to TheHiddenFlask
A voice of reason?
What a concept.
What a concept.
Posted on 12/5/09 at 10:50 pm to TheHiddenFlask
quote:
Miles' first two classes did not fill the needs of the team
quote:
but his recruiting has been superb.
I think his recruiting is overrated
Posted on 12/5/09 at 10:50 pm to TheHiddenFlask
I've been saying this for about three years now. I stopped bringing it up because I do not enjoy being ridiculed.
Posted on 12/5/09 at 10:50 pm to TheHiddenFlask
quote:
He also was forced to coach with what Saban had left him, whether or not they fit his philosophy.
"Forced" to coach all that NFL talent, and still managed to lose at least 2 SEC games every year? I know we've had QB problems, but we've had other problems too.
Posted on 12/5/09 at 10:52 pm to TheHiddenFlask
quote:
Nobody has anything to say?
The Rant rarely if ever follows recruiting. According to them our talent is either equal or superior to Florida, Alabama, USC, etc. every single year at almost every single position.
Plus, at no point in your post did you question Miles or call him a name. With that being said, it's not much of a surpirse the Rant doesn't have much to say.
This post was edited on 12/5/09 at 10:53 pm
Posted on 12/5/09 at 10:52 pm to TheHiddenFlask
I agree that you are right about the 05 class but the 06 class is upperclassman and the results speak for themselves. also much of the 06 class is no longer on the team and thats miles's fault.
Posted on 12/5/09 at 10:54 pm to TheHiddenFlask
quote:
He also was forced to coach with what Saban had left him, whether or not they fit his philosophy.
This is often overlooked, the assumption being that Saban left him great players. The 2005 recruiting class was highly affected by Saban leaving and recruits not knowing Miles.
quote:
2010 and 2011 will be years where he will have fully recruited the talent on his team.
I agree
Posted on 12/5/09 at 10:54 pm to lsu777
i follow recruiting as close as you do flask and he has failed to fill needs. plain and simple. and how did the recruits saban left not fit his system? its not like we do some exotic scheme on either offense or defense. how do they not fit?
Posted on 12/5/09 at 10:56 pm to lsu777
So it Les' fault that Some of the 06 players broke the law and were kicked off?
Posted on 12/5/09 at 10:57 pm to ipodking
quote:
So it Les' fault that Some of the 06 players broke the law and were kicked off?
Of course its Les' fault. Why wouldnt it be? He recruited them and brought them in to LSU and ask them to represent him and the University.
Posted on 12/5/09 at 10:58 pm to TheHiddenFlask
this is somewhat reasonable.
miles will definitely get 2010 to light it up. we absolutely should--there can be no excuses.
2011-- we'll see.
miles will definitely get 2010 to light it up. we absolutely should--there can be no excuses.
2011-- we'll see.
Posted on 12/5/09 at 10:58 pm to lsu777
2006
Jacob Cutrera
Richard Dickson
Jai Eugene
Lazarius Levingston
Jared Mitchell
Richard Murphy
Perry Riley
Charles Scott
Kelvin Sheppard
Keilland Williams
Al Woods
You're right. Horrible, horrible class
Jacob Cutrera
Richard Dickson
Jai Eugene
Lazarius Levingston
Jared Mitchell
Richard Murphy
Perry Riley
Charles Scott
Kelvin Sheppard
Keilland Williams
Al Woods
You're right. Horrible, horrible class
Posted on 12/5/09 at 10:58 pm to TheHiddenFlask
this post goes along well with my post that is somewhere down the board on the 1st page.
Posted on 12/5/09 at 10:58 pm to biglego
quote:Yes we have, and Miles has done a good job fixing them. For example, Defense was horrible in 08 because of the people he hired. So, immediatly after the season, he went out and got a good coordinator. This year, Defense is MUCH better. He evaluated a problem, and went out and fixed it. Then this year, things went bad with the offense. So he will evaluate it and get another coordinator. So next year, we will have an even better defense, a more experienced QB, and hopefully a better offense as a whole. Im not saying I have COMPLETE faith that he will fix the offense next season, but I am deffinatly not going to call for his head after just one or two bad seasons
but we've had other problems too
This post was edited on 12/5/09 at 11:01 pm
Posted on 12/5/09 at 11:00 pm to TheHiddenFlask
Miles cannot manage a basic clock situation let alone coach/recruit whatever with the likes of Satan, I mean Saban. I hate it, but to this point there is no question that Saban is, er, miles better....
Posted on 12/5/09 at 11:01 pm to White Tiger
quote:He did in the Arkansas game
Miles cannot manage a basic clock situation
Posted on 12/5/09 at 11:02 pm to White Tiger
And of course this statement is based on more than the last two years of college football...
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