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re: I want Crowton to return.

Posted on 11/18/09 at 11:36 am to
Posted by TigerStuckinOkieland
Oklahoma City, OK
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 11/18/09 at 11:36 am to
Blame erratic QB play and OLine play all you want, but bottom line, Crowton (or someone's) playcalling has not helped this offense, no matter who is on the field.

When LSU has shown signs of being able to run the ball, they go away from it, and go to this "piss-ant" naked backfield with 5 WR's all bunched together. Let's take a step back and figure out how much more successful we might've been in a 2-TE setup and at least one strong RB in the backfield as a runner, blocker, and/or decoy on play-action passing. We have an ALL-SEC TE in Dickson, who has been more under-utilized than any player on the team. When you have Lafell, Tolliver, and a RS/TH slotback-type receivers to go to on the split-outs, you don't need any more wideouts - one or more will likely need to be double-teamed, which opens up opportunities for the running game and inside passing game to the TE's and RB's.

Crowton and Miles could solve this problem immediately by scrapping this "bust" of a hybrid spread offense. This offense is for "pussies" and/or teams that have talented, bruising QB's like a Tim Tebow who can handle the hits on a regular basis. Jefferson is decent with his feet, but he cannot deliver the ball with accuracy OR check down to multiple receivers like a Tebow, McCoy, or a Bradford. Absent that, these offenses usually don't work well versus quality SEC defenses. A little misdirection is fine, but I vote we go back to power football - Power I/Pro-set offenses or bust for me!
Posted by LSU Fan 90812
A man more eviler than Skeletor.
Member since Feb 2005
50655 posts
Posted on 11/18/09 at 11:42 am to
quote:

Blame erratic QB play and OLine play all you want, but bottom line, Crowton (or someone's) playcalling has not helped this offense, no matter who is on the field.


a playcall is only as good as the whether or not the team executes it. those same type of playcalls were executed just fine when matt flynn was the qb.
Posted by SJTiger
Texas
Member since Sep 2005
1521 posts
Posted on 11/18/09 at 11:42 am to

Crowton is responsible for the QBs and O-line and or designing an offense that hides this weakness. There is no excuse for being LAST in the SEC, absolutely none with our talent. Im not asking for top3 in offense...just not damn last. Explain how we should be last? Please?
Posted by Leonides
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2009
1270 posts
Posted on 11/18/09 at 8:21 pm to
quote:

Blame erratic QB play and OLine play all you want, but bottom line, Crowton (or someone's) playcalling has not helped this offense, no matter who is on the field.

When LSU has shown signs of being able to run the ball, they go away from it, and go to this "piss-ant" naked backfield with 5 WR's all bunched together. Let's take a step back and figure out how much more successful we might've been in a 2-TE setup and at least one strong RB in the backfield as a runner, blocker, and/or decoy on play-action passing. We have an ALL-SEC TE in Dickson, who has been more under-utilized than any player on the team. When you have Lafell, Tolliver, and a RS/TH slotback-type receivers to go to on the split-outs, you don't need any more wideouts - one or more will likely need to be double-teamed, which opens up opportunities for the running game and inside passing game to the TE's and RB's.

Crowton and Miles could solve this problem immediately by scrapping this "bust" of a hybrid spread offense. This offense is for "pussies" and/or teams that have talented, bruising QB's like a Tim Tebow who can handle the hits on a regular basis. Jefferson is decent with his feet, but he cannot deliver the ball with accuracy OR check down to multiple receivers like a Tebow, McCoy, or a Bradford. Absent that, these offenses usually don't work well versus quality SEC defenses. A little misdirection is fine, but I vote we go back to power football - Power I/Pro-set offenses or bust for me!


This. TigerinOkieland knows whereof he speaks.

LSU is a power-I, pro formation team. I have yet to understand why Crowton has run more option and 4 and 5 WR sets this season, considering JJ is not an option QB plus the fact he was inexperienced in checking down and reading his second and third options on passing plays.

I am sorry, but I am not one in favor of giving Crowton anymore time to prove himself capable of managing the offense at LSU. The fact LSU ranks 106th in the country is absurd. If Crowton was capable of making adjustments, then he would have done so by now as he is getting paid to adjust over the course of the season, from game to game. The fact is that Crowton either will not adjust or cannot adjust.

After 3 years of steady regression on offense, I have seen enough of Crowton to know a change is warranted.
This post was edited on 11/18/09 at 8:24 pm
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