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Court orders Krafton to restore Subnautica founder/CEO. Sub 2 Early Access in May

Posted on 3/19/26 at 7:42 am
Posted by sgallo3
Lake Charles
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 3/19/26 at 7:42 am
JUSTICE!

This story is bizarre.
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The Krafton guy that fired them asked chatgpt how to get out of paying them the extra 250 million.

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Kim, spooked by what he privately called a “pushover” deal, bypassed his own legal team and turned to ChatGPT for help. When the AI chatbot responded that the earnout would be “difficult to cancel,” the ruling read, Kim didn’t accept the answer. He pushed further—and the chatbot obliged with a detailed, multi-stage corporate takeover strategy dubbed “Project X.”

Project X

ChatGPT advised Kim to form an internal task force to renegotiate the earnout or force a studio takeover; if negotiations failed, to “lock down” Steam and console publishing rights and control over the game’s code; to frame the entire conflict as being about “fan trust” and “quality” rather than money; and to prepare systematic legal defense materials while logging all communications. The chatbot even suggested drafting a public-facing message to win over Subnautica fans—a message Kim then asked ChatGPT to write. It backfired spectacularly, alarming the gaming community and heightening suspicions that something was deeply wrong at the studio.

Throughout this process, Kim’s own team warned him the strategy was dangerous, but Kim pressed ahead anyway. Cleveland, McGuire, and Gill were all removed from their roles without what the court determined was legitimate cause.


This post was edited on 3/19/26 at 9:35 am
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
64687 posts
Posted on 3/19/26 at 9:11 am to
This article is a little confusing to me. The headline says:

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In a wild turn for the Subnautica 2 lawsuit, a judge orders Krafton to restore fired Unknown Worlds CEO and gives them 9 more months to earn $250 million bonus


Then the article says "studio heads," plural:

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Lest there be any ambiguity, the judge declared very clearly that they found Krafton terminated the Unknown Worlds studio heads specifically to avoid paying out that $250 million bonus that would have been required if Subnautica 2 achieved specific sales targets following its early access launch—essentially agreeing with the central point of argument of the former Unknown Worlds heads.


But then says they only reinstated Krafton:

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The judge ruled that formally ordering the restoration of Gill's fellow Unknown Worlds chiefs, studio co-founder Max McGuire and Subnautica designer and director Charlie Cleveland, was not necessary to remedy the contractual breach because they had "entrusted [their] authority to Gill," and with Gill returned to the CEO role, he has the discretion to bring them back or not as he sees fit.


I kept trying to figure out what other studio heads were restored or who the headline refers to as "them." Did the court actually reinstate someone else, or is this just a really poorly written article and headline?

ETA: Sorry for the slight derail. I truly am confused by the article's contradicting statements.
This post was edited on 3/19/26 at 9:12 am
Posted by sgallo3
Lake Charles
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 3/19/26 at 9:30 am to
I think the Them in the headline is just referring to the CEO (Gill).

The 3 heads were ousted but he is the only one returning it seems.

Also early access coming in May for Subnautica 2
This post was edited on 3/19/26 at 9:33 am
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
64687 posts
Posted on 3/19/26 at 9:48 am to
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I think the Them in the headline is just referring to the CEO (Gill).


That's what I assumed until the article mentioned multiple studio heads, but you're probably correct.

This is a great example of how using "they/them" as singular pronouns simply does not work.
Posted by Joshjrn
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 3/19/26 at 9:59 am to
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That's what I assumed until the article mentioned multiple studio heads, but you're probably correct.

This is a great example of how using "they/them" as singular pronouns simply does not work.

I think you're fishing for ambiguity that doesn't really exist. Everyone, including you, read the "them" in the headline to be singular. The article then going into detail that multiple people were terminated, but that only one needs to be brought back by judicial order, because then they would have the authority to bring the others back, doesn't make the headline ambiguous, in my opinion.
Posted by sgallo3
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Member since Sep 2008
26625 posts
Posted on 3/19/26 at 10:18 am to
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This is a great example of how using "they/them" as singular pronouns simply does not work.

What? Lol thats been a thing forever. We learned it in grade school.

"I went to the doctor yesterday. I told them ive been experiencing migraines."
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
64687 posts
Posted on 3/19/26 at 2:17 pm to
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I think you're fishing for ambiguity that doesn't really exist. Everyone, including you, read the "them" in the headline to be singular.


No, actually. I didn't read it to be singular, because the word is "them." I assumed it was meant to be singular when I started reading the article because the first paragraph is about one person and they clearly used normal pronouns for him, and then the article made it ambiguous.
This post was edited on 3/19/26 at 2:20 pm
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
64687 posts
Posted on 3/19/26 at 2:18 pm to
quote:

"I went to the doctor yesterday. I told them ive been experiencing migraines."


Never have I ever referred to my doctor as a "them." I might refer to my doctor and his/her staff, collectively, as "them," but I would never say "I told them I've been experience migraines" if referring only to my doctor.
Posted by Joshjrn
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Member since Dec 2008
32551 posts
Posted on 3/19/26 at 2:22 pm to
quote:

No, actually. I didn't read it to be singular, because the word is "them." I assumed it was meant to be singular when I started reading the article because the first paragraph is about one person and they clearly used normal pronouns for him, and then the article made it ambiguous.

Out of curiosity, did you have any trouble reading the second sentence of my previous post?
Posted by imjustafatkid
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Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 3/19/26 at 2:24 pm to
I clearly responded to your second sentence. What a strange question.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
32551 posts
Posted on 3/19/26 at 2:31 pm to
quote:

Never have I ever referred to my doctor as a "them." I might refer to my doctor and his/her staff, collectively, as "them," but I would never say "I told them I've been experience migraines" if referring only to my doctor.

Let's say you asked me what I did a few weekends ago, and I said I went to my godbaby's birthday party. Let's say you wanted to ask me how old they were. How would you word that question?
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
32551 posts
Posted on 3/19/26 at 2:32 pm to
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I clearly responded to your second sentence. What a strange question.

Not strange at all. I used "they" to refer to a single person, yet you didn't seem to be confused by that.
Posted by sgallo3
Lake Charles
Member since Sep 2008
26625 posts
Posted on 3/19/26 at 3:54 pm to
The singular "them" (and "they") has been used to refer to a person of unspecified gender since at least the 14th century (circa 1375), appearing in early English literature like "William and the Werewolf". It has been a standard feature in English, used as a neutral singular pronoun for over 600 years. It was commonly used in the 14th and 15th centuries when the gender of a person was unknown or irrelevant.

"CEO" in the headline did not specify the gender, thus the writer used them.

This post was edited on 3/19/26 at 3:59 pm
Posted by The Quiet One
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Member since Oct 2013
12148 posts
Posted on 3/19/26 at 7:05 pm to
How old is he?
"It's my goddaughter, she's 2."
Cool.

-OR-

How old is she?
"It's my godson, he's 2."
Cool.

-OR-

Who the frick refers to their god-son or god-daughter as a godbaby?
"hurr durr I'm a fricking retard who has to argue on the internet over the dumbest fricking shite ever."
My condolences to your godbaby, retard.

Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
32551 posts
Posted on 3/19/26 at 7:55 pm to
quote:

How old is he? "It's my goddaughter, she's 2." Cool. -OR- How old is she? "It's my godson, he's 2." Cool. -OR- Who the frick refers to their god-son or god-daughter as a godbaby? "hurr durr I'm a fricking retard who has to argue on the internet over the dumbest fricking shite ever." My condolences to your godbaby, retard.

Quoted for being a fricking douchebag who otherwise isn’t worth responding to
Posted by The Quiet One
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Member since Oct 2013
12148 posts
Posted on 3/20/26 at 7:27 am to
And yet you responded. frick off, bitch.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
32551 posts
Posted on 3/20/26 at 7:29 am to
quote:

And yet you responded. frick off, bitch.

Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
64687 posts
Posted on 3/20/26 at 9:28 am to
quote:

Who the frick refers to their god-son or god-daughter as a godbaby?
"hurr durr I'm a fricking retard who has to argue on the internet over the dumbest fricking shite ever."
My condolences to your godbaby, retard.


Absolutely no one. This genderless language push is nonsense. They have to keep claiming things that no one does are actually commonplace.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
64687 posts
Posted on 3/20/26 at 9:35 am to
This is your post:

quote:

I think you're fishing for ambiguity that doesn't really exist. Everyone, including you, read the "them" in the headline to be singular. The article then going into detail that multiple people were terminated, but that only one needs to be brought back by judicial order, because then they would have the authority to bring the others back, doesn't make the headline ambiguous, in my opinion.


This was my response:

quote:

No, actually. I didn't read it to be singular, because the word is "them." I assumed it was meant to be singular when I started reading the article because the first paragraph is about one person and they clearly used normal pronouns for him, and then the article made it ambiguous.


Based on what you just stated below, I don't think you are following the conversation very well:

quote:

Not strange at all. I used "they" to refer to a single person, yet you didn't seem to be confused by that.


Yes, I know when you used the term "them" (not "they") in your second sentence (bolded and underlined above), that you were talking about the use of the word "them" in the article's headline.

Now that I read it again, and based on your ridiculous follow up response, I must assume you're talking about the word "they" in your third sentence. I have to assume, because you didn't say "third sentence," you said "second sentence." If that is true, then the answer to your question is "no, I did not understand that use of the term "they" to be a singular pronoun in that instance." I thought you were talking about the company, Krafton, in a collective "they," as is normal. If you meant that to refer to a singular person, your use of the term "they" was misplaced and did not convey what you intended.

ETA: This actually highlights the problem even further. When you do not label things correctly, such as you calling your third sentence your second sentence or the headline of this article using "them" instead of "him," no one knows what you're talking about.
This post was edited on 3/20/26 at 9:39 am
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
64687 posts
Posted on 3/20/26 at 9:39 am to
quote:

It was commonly used in the 14th and 15th centuries when the gender of a person was unknown or irrelevant.


This doesn't really work in this instance. The gender of the CEO is known, and is relevant since the article refers to multiple different people and also to groups of people.

quote:

"CEO" in the headline did not specify the gender, thus the writer used them.


If you read the headline below, without reading the article, it reads like Krafton is the "them" trying to earn the bonus:

quote:

a judge orders Krafton to restore fired Unknown Worlds CEO and gives them 9 more months to earn $250 million bonus


A judge orders Krafton to [do first thing] and [do second thing]. The use of the word "them," in this headline, to refer to the CEO, does not work.
This post was edited on 3/20/26 at 9:43 am
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