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Does Yeskie return?
Posted on 6/4/24 at 7:50 pm
Posted on 6/4/24 at 7:50 pm
Curious if he stays for another year…
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Posted on 6/4/24 at 7:53 pm to Northwest Louisiana
Similar situation last year where the pitching was slow to start outside of your Friday night guy and now we had the bats go dead. I don't think Yeskie is a favorable pickup to other programs and it would he really annoying for CJJ to need a 4th pitching coach in his 4th year here.
Posted on 6/4/24 at 7:53 pm to Northwest Louisiana
After what I saw from a lot of pitchers who were supposed to take the next step this year, I hope not. That doesn't even take into account his horrible pitch calling.
Let's hope Yeskie doesn't turn into Jay's Cam Cameron. That would be a shame.
Let's hope Yeskie doesn't turn into Jay's Cam Cameron. That would be a shame.
Posted on 6/4/24 at 7:54 pm to Northwest Louisiana
Posted on 6/4/24 at 7:54 pm to Northwest Louisiana
I certainly hope so. While he may have his faults, we desperately need some continuity and consistency in our program. We certainly don’t need a 4th pitching coach in 4 years.
Posted on 6/4/24 at 7:56 pm to Northwest Louisiana
With a lot of these guys who struggled this year being incumbents, I’m not sure we can put all the problems on him. Also, we did see progression from Jump, Holman, Herring, and Anderson, so it wasn’t terrible across the board.
But it is disappointing that Ack just kind of was what he was last regular season, Little only got back to average, Hurd and Guidry went backwards, and you all know the rest. The middle to bottom of the staff is rough and didn’t really improve at all outside of Helmers’ late run.
If he returns and things don’t improve, he would need to be shown the door.
ETA for the down voters- Here are some pitching stats from this season. LSU is:
50th in Runs given up
64th in Earned Runs
Sub 100 in Hits given up
Sub 100 in Ks
Sub 100 in Walks- this is a fricking killer and can’t be repeated.
We are middle of the pack or lower in the SEC in all of these categories. If we don’t improve over these mediocre numbers, we will still be a middle to lower tier SEC team next season. Would you keep Yeskie after next season if these numbers don’t improve?
I personally think they will improve if he stays, but he would HAVE to be gone if they didn’t.
But it is disappointing that Ack just kind of was what he was last regular season, Little only got back to average, Hurd and Guidry went backwards, and you all know the rest. The middle to bottom of the staff is rough and didn’t really improve at all outside of Helmers’ late run.
If he returns and things don’t improve, he would need to be shown the door.
ETA for the down voters- Here are some pitching stats from this season. LSU is:
50th in Runs given up
64th in Earned Runs
Sub 100 in Hits given up
Sub 100 in Ks
Sub 100 in Walks- this is a fricking killer and can’t be repeated.
We are middle of the pack or lower in the SEC in all of these categories. If we don’t improve over these mediocre numbers, we will still be a middle to lower tier SEC team next season. Would you keep Yeskie after next season if these numbers don’t improve?
I personally think they will improve if he stays, but he would HAVE to be gone if they didn’t.
This post was edited on 6/4/24 at 8:13 pm
Posted on 6/4/24 at 7:56 pm to Northwest Louisiana
It would be nice to have the same pitching coach for 2 years in a row since we haven’t had that in what feels like forever. Despite many on this board blaming him bc our depleted staff allowed 3 earned runs in 10 innings last night, our pitching staff has improved throughout the SEC and postseason.
Posted on 6/4/24 at 8:05 pm to BilbeauTBaggins
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Similar situation last year where the pitching was slow to start outside of your Friday night guy
It’s almost like switching pitching coaches every offseason sets the staff back
Posted on 6/4/24 at 8:05 pm to Tammany Tom
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ly need some continuity and consistency in our program. We certainly don’t need a 4th pitching coach in 4 years.
Yeskie is the 4th in 4 years. But your point stands. It would be great to have some continuity.
2021 Dunn under Paul
2022 Jason Kelly
2023 Wes Johnson (dick head)
2024 Yeskie
Posted on 6/4/24 at 8:08 pm to notbilly
Hurd mentioned tinkering. Wonder if Yeskie had a bunch to do with it .
Posted on 6/4/24 at 8:08 pm to Dill With It
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After what I saw from a lot of pitchers who were supposed to take the next step this year
Herring gut better. Littke got better. Hellmers got better. Guidry was good again. Hollman was better than he was at Alabama and Jump than he was at UCLA. Moffett got better. Ulloa and Anderson got better from the start to the end of the season.
Our staff as a whole was significantly better than in was last year and we lost our top two starters plus our best arm out of the bullpen. Pitching was not our problem this season
It’s like people are completely oblivious to the fact we were statistically the 4th best staff in the conference
This post was edited on 6/4/24 at 8:11 pm
Posted on 6/4/24 at 8:10 pm to Dill With It
The Griffin Herring gif doesn't make any sense. Herrring had his longest outing of the year and went 6.1 innings with 0 walks and gave up only 1 run.
Perhaps he should have been throwing more fastballs all season long.
Perhaps he should have been throwing more fastballs all season long.
Posted on 6/4/24 at 8:13 pm to Cfont22
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Hurd mentioned tinkering. Wonder if Yeskie had a bunch to do with it .
Hurd said he was tinkering himself trying to be perfect. It sounded like it was Yeskie who brought him back to the basics
Posted on 6/4/24 at 8:13 pm to Choupique19
I think Jump could have frozen a couple batters in the 9th/10th on breaking balls. Every time I would think “here it comes”, it would be another fastball.
Posted on 6/4/24 at 8:18 pm to lsufball19
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Herring gut better. Littke got better. Hellmers got better. Guidry was good again. Hollman was better than he was at Alabama and Jump than he was at UCLA. Moffett got better. Ulloa and Anderson got better from the start to the end of the season. Our staff as a whole was significantly better than in was last year and we lost our top two starters plus our best arm out of the bullpen. Pitching was not our problem this season It’s like people are completely oblivious to the fact we were statistically the 4th best staff in the conference
Little improved to a decent SEC arm after being an unusable wasted roster spot last year. Guidry went backwards from his performance late last season. Ack stayed the same. Hurd went backwards. The lower-tier pitchers didn’t improve. I love what Helmers did late, but we barely saw him pitch this season before the postseason.
Anderson did make huge strides and that is promising. Holman, Jump and Herring did too. Talent matters and some of the most talented arms did develop under Yeskie. But some of you are REALLY sugar coating the hell out of the rest of the staff and its obvious issues.
This post was edited on 6/4/24 at 8:20 pm
Posted on 6/4/24 at 8:24 pm to misey94
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Little improved to a decent SEC arm after being an unusable wasted roster spot last year.
So he got a lot better
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Guidry went backwards from his performance late last season
Look at his numbers. No he didn’t
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Hurd went backwards.
Not really. Hurd had a good month last year. The rest of his season looked much the same. Hurd’s problem is mental. Always has been.
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The lower-tier pitchers didn’t improve.
Yes they did
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But some of you are REALLY sugar coating the hell out of the rest of the staff and its obvious issues.
And you’re doing the exact opposite. Over exaggerating the “obvious issues” you think it has
People bitched all season last year, blamed the whole staff for these purported “problems,” didnttthink we’d win a regional…all the while we kept winning all season and won a national title. Some people can never be happy or see the good in anything. There’s always some massive coaching issue that needs to be fixed with someone losing their job. It’s psychotic
This post was edited on 6/4/24 at 8:29 pm
Posted on 6/4/24 at 8:28 pm to Northwest Louisiana
At some point it’s got to end up hurting CJJ with pitching recruits and transfer guys if he can’t keep a pitching coach more than a year. 4 pitching coaches in 4 years can’t be ideal.
I thought the pitching improved throughout the year and actually became a strength. Would love to have Yeski back and have some continuity going forward.
I thought the pitching improved throughout the year and actually became a strength. Would love to have Yeski back and have some continuity going forward.
Posted on 6/4/24 at 8:42 pm to BilbeauTBaggins
I hope not, pitching was supposed to be our strength, and became our undoing. When you are up 4 runs in the ninth inning and sweating about finishing the game…. Jeez! Cut bait, now!!!
Posted on 6/4/24 at 8:45 pm to Honest Tune
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I think Jump could have frozen a couple batters in the 9th/10th on breaking balls. Every time I would think “here it comes”, it would be another fastball.
The first breaking ball of the 9th inning got hit for a double. With the tying run on second base I also think Yeskie was a little hesitant of a breaking ball in the dirt with Neal behind the plate.
Posted on 6/4/24 at 8:45 pm to lsufball19
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And you’re doing the exact opposite. Over exaggerating the “obvious issues” you think it has
Look at the stats I posted earlier in this thread. We are fricking 12th in the SEC in walks. Not being able to get pitches in the strike zone from the bullpen guys was a massive problem in 2 of our our postseason losses and hurt early last night. We are middle of the pack of worse in most SEC pitching categories and we are that high because of the effectiveness of Jump, Holman and Herring in the 2nd half of SEC play.
You need to take off the purple and gold glasses. The staff has to improve for the Tigers to finish 2025 in the top half of the SEC and be more competitive nationally.
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