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Posted on 5/22/24 at 1:08 pm to
Posted by Mr Breeze
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Posted on 5/22/24 at 1:08 pm to
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Question for you (and anyone else who has surveyed land):

Do you take into account the "curvature" of the earth?

OR

Do you assume the land is flat?

Depends on the technique being used and the end geodetic datum desired.

Survey grade GPS requires a datum shift from satellite datum, WGS-84 to local flat earth datum, normally expressed in State Plane or UTM coordinates. There’s a few intermediate calcs required to convert from satellite datum to the desired local datum, going from a curved sphere to local based flat earth coordinates.

“Flat Earth” survey datums can usually be done starting from a survey grade benchmark using a Total Station instrument in lieu of GPS.

Part of the surveyor’s skill set is knowing the science of Geodesy, which in some cases can be very complex. The earth is flattened at the poles, technically not a perfectly round sphere but egg shaped. It’s called an oblate spheroid.

That’s a simplified explanation of a complex subject known as Geodesy.
Posted by Liberator
Revelation 20:10-12
Member since Jul 2020
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Posted on 5/22/24 at 1:43 pm to
Thank you for answering my question in detail.

For the record I believe this realm is Flat. I am NOT trying to create an argument or convincing anyone of my scientific belief. I am merely trying to understand the process from your personal and professional perspective.

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There’s a few intermediate calcs required to convert from satellite datum to the desired local datum, going from a curved sphere to local based flat earth coordinates.

“Flat Earth” survey datums can usually be done starting from a survey grade benchmark using a Total Station instrument in lieu of GPS...Part of the surveyor’s skill set is knowing the science of Geodesy, which in some cases can be very complex..


Seems to me the craft or trade of Land Surveying served us well before complicating the process with "the science of Geodesy".

Which system of surveying provides evidence of curvature? (or do they?)

Cynics (like myself) would say the over-complex Geodesy was adopted as a surveyor tool to provide plausibility for "curvature".

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