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re: Russia prolonging Ukraine war

Posted on 4/22/24 at 4:45 am to
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
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Posted on 4/22/24 at 4:45 am to
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They are draining their own resources at an insane rate. They have lost 1/4 of their awacs, someone like 15% of their fighters, well over half of their operational armored vehicles, and half a million troops, and at least 6 s-400 installations at half a billion dollars each. You really think that's what's going on?


I'm guessing that none of those numbers are accurate.
Posted by WonTonDonWon
Member since Apr 2024
146 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 5:31 am to
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I'm guessing that none of those numbers are accurate.


They had 4 operational awacs type aircraft. Ukraine shot down one. They have others that they harvest for parts at least one of those was hit and damaged in a drone attack. When these go down they have generals, majors, & lieutenants on them. They were built in soviet times and can't be produced anymore.

They have another type of aircraft that does command and control too but aren't nearly as capable as the ones with the big ole disk on it. 7-8 or so. A few of those have been shot down too. They have majors and lieutenants on them.

15% of Fighters is just what they have shot down. They have lost some more to stupid a** ridiculous mistakes. Six? Six? S-400's no way, way more. Not including the ones they have had to pull back out of range of battle. Back to the motherland to protect their refineries and factories.

Do you think The Institution for the Study of War is some liberal rag? Over and over again these numbers are replicated individually by different agencies. Ukraine's numbers they publish on equipment kills have been over and over proven reliable. The only somewhat questionable thing is Ukraine's claims of Russian casualties. Most outsiders run around 40-80 thousand less than their claimed 460,000 Russian casualties. With a caveat that it's "really hard to get casualties right but we are mostly in line with Ukraine's numbers".

It's like some people read some far one-sided leaning rag (propaganda) from a year ago and then think "Im guessing that crap I read a year ago is more likely to be right then up to date numbers", backed by multiple parties. . Wishful thinking isn't data.

It's a crazy world. Everything Russia says is true they never lie. Anything good to be said about Ukraine is fake news.
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