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re: Is the Libertarian Party of Louisianan a real thing?

Posted on 3/21/24 at 8:33 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 3/21/24 at 8:33 am to
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Criminals lose their rights, it's a thing.

Even if you want to make this argument (and it's an anti-2A argument), they lose their rights at conviction.

These people haven't been convicted, so that argument is dead.

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I have yet to see your buttbuddy lament the places that violated the 2A for citizens in this country.

That's only how children and idiots engage in discussion.

There are nearly infinite examples of things you're now requiring him to respond to in order to discuss this with you. Seems illogical.

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Right, I'm sure they were talking about the people of Britain and France too.

You need to read up on the Constitution, its authors, and the USSC precedents.

James Madison specifically argued that these rights and protections extended to everyone, citizen or non-citizen.

The USSC has ruled that non-citizens have Constitutional protections in the 1800s. This is not a recent development.

Your interpretation has never been the law of the land.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
262997 posts
Posted on 3/21/24 at 8:38 am to
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These people haven't been convicted


I think the ruling said such. We dont remove natural rights for people who aren't convicted of a crime.

Maybe these folks didnt read it.

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"The Court finds that Carbajal-Flores' criminal record, containing no improper use of a weapon, as well as the non-violent circumstances of his arrest do not support a finding that he poses a risk to public safety such that he cannot be trusted to use a weapon responsibly and should be deprived of his Second Amendment right to bear arms in self-defense,"
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