re: Help me determine some Objective Truth

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I see some in this thread suggesting you're just being a combative arse and will not argue in good faith. Since you replied to my response, I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt.

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Thanks. This forum is filled with Christians that don’t really believe in freedom of religion or thought, and perpetuate a double standard. An atheist expressing opinions is hateful and combative, (or as with Roger - anyone who disagrees with his beliefs is a closet homosexual ). A Christian of the particular belief of the one judging is being benevolent and just doing the Lord’s work.

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Do you understand this or is anything unclear?

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Yes. Read my response to Prodigal Son, I think I have it covered with the test of the Israelites bitching about manna and lack of water versus Jesus and Elijah putting their faith in God by not testing him and by testing him, respectively.

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The context of that part of Malachi is that the people were not fully committing to God (in their tithes). And if you are cheating in small things like tithes, you can't really say you're committed to God above worldly things, can you?

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Ok, forget Malachi for a moment. Just use my example of Jesus versus Elijah.

I read the rest of your post. I just disagree with you on Elijah. I think it was a test. The same sort of thing Jesus said he would not do because he shall not test the LORD his God. The circumstances of the test were slightly different - catch Jesus from falling as a test of God, versus set the wet bull carcass on fire as a test of God. They are both tests.

You might disagree on my interpretation, but can you at least see that there are other rational and reasonable interpretations, and that the issue is not objective?