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Posted on 2/12/24 at 11:10 am to
Posted by LouisianaLonghorn
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Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 2/12/24 at 11:10 am to
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Did your dumb arse think The Wizard was evil?

He wanted to help Dorothy, but he didn't know how. He helped the Lion, the Tin Man and the Scarecrow.

The green witch in TWoO was the villain, not the Wizard.

Glinda was the only witch that was good. She was also the one that told Dorothy how to get home.


You have to remember that this musical was based on the novel Wicked by Gregory McGuire, not the L. Frank Baum original book. McGuire turned the story on its head. The novel is basically a political allegory, similar to Animal Farm by George Orwell. The musical strips away a lot of the political undertones, but keeps the main idea, which is the question of what exactly does it mean to be wicked.

The flying monkeys are Elphaba's helpers because she released them from their cages.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 2/12/24 at 11:24 am to
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You have to remember that this musical was based on the novel Wicked by Gregory McGuire, not the L. Frank Baum original book.


Um...no.

None of this exists without Baum's original.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 2/12/24 at 11:27 am to
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which is the question of what exactly does it mean to be wicked.


Enslaving and terrorizing Munchkins, threatening a child and her dog....yep, if you don't understand that to be evil, you're a moron.....

Of course "muh patriarchy" ....
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89749 posts
Posted on 2/12/24 at 2:11 pm to
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The musical strips away a lot of the political undertones, but keeps the main idea, which is the question of what exactly does it mean to be wicked.


Meh. Not really. It hits the audience with the message like a bludgeon. I can appreciate it for what it is (and the theater folks who present this show have been top shelf in my 2 experiences), but let's not pretend the musical isn't "all in" against white supremacy/racism, classism and the patriarchy.
This post was edited on 2/12/24 at 2:13 pm
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