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re: Would you live in Seattle suburbs?
Posted on 1/25/24 at 8:33 am to AwgustaDawg
Posted on 1/25/24 at 8:33 am to AwgustaDawg
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We bought a 2000 square foot 4/3 on a half-acre lot with no HOA about 2 hours east of Seattle in 2018.
Where? In Ellensburg? Yakima? That isn't really a reflective of any price point for Western Washington.
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The one in Georgia is in a metro area with about 600,000 people and is 2 hours from Atlanta, an hour from Columbia, 3 hours from Charlotte and 4 hours from Jacksonville. School system is better here, far more high tech jobs and as many health care jobs as anyone could want
Is this relative to Washington or Seattle? Because Yakima is a terrible shithole and is a really terrible basis for comparison.
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is a military community which has never known a recession since the 1930s.
I don't know about a recession, but the PNW, in particular the Sound, has a massive military presence. Some of my neighbors and lots of my friends in the South Sound worked at JBLM.
If your basis of comparison is Yakima, then yeah, I can understand your point of view. But that really, really, really isn't reflective of living in Seattle or the actual Puget Sound area. It certainly isn't considered part of the greater MSA or CSA.
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I can also drive about 5 minutes from my house and access 2 of the longest and most scenic nature trails in the SE united states and go for a walk without the government asking me for a damn thing and I can walk 250 feet from my house and access another system of trails that is considered one of the best suburban nature trails in the United States and the only person who knows I am there is my old dog who is with me. I can also take a UL spinning rod with me on these walks and catch full grown bream and no one bats an eye. Its infinitely better here. It isn't as pretty but its pretty enough.
You seem to be basing your experience as the dispositive example of what living in an area is like, and that seems to be the issue. If the PNW was not your cup of tea, fine, but the notion for paying for permits to hike is not a notion limited to Washington. The seasonal permits were extremely cheap too, to the degree that I've never heard of anyone complaining about that in particular.
This post was edited on 1/25/24 at 8:35 am
Posted on 1/25/24 at 8:50 am to crazy4lsu
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Where? In Ellensburg? Yakima? That isn't really a reflective of any price point for Western Washington. Some of my neighbors and lots of my friends in the South Sound worked at JBLM.
Tri Cities - Kennewick address but actually closer to Richland. I was mistaken about the population...its actually closer to 300K than 100K for the entire area.
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Is this relative to Washington or Seattle? Because Yakima is a terrible shithole and is a really terrible basis for comparison.
I would agree, Yakima is a shite hole. Pasco is also on a smaller scale. Spokane is as bad as Yakima.
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I don't know about a recession, but the PNW, in particular the Sound, has a massive military presence.
If your basis of comparison is Yakima, then yeah, I can understand your point of view. But that really, really, really isn't reflective of living in Seattle or the actual Puget Sound area. It certainly isn't considered part of the greater MSA or CSA.
I doubt if there is a state economy in the US which is stronger and more stable than that of Washington and the west side is BOOMING and a fantastic place to live as far as economics goes. Yes, housing is outlandish BUT wages more than make up for it. If I were a young man and not an old man with years of marketable experience which affords me a very nice salary in the south it would be a no brainer for me...I would relocate to Washington and tolerate all of the BS so I could earn Washington wages. I would not think twice about it. There is more to life than high wages though when you are making your nut. That aspect of living in all of the PNW is too much to accept...if you are making a good living elsewhere, something far too many people in the south ain't doing.
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You seem to be basing your experience as the dispositive example of what living in an area is like, and that seems to be the issue. If the PNW was not your cup of tea, fine, but the notion for paying for permits to hike is not a notion limited to Washington. The seasonal permits were extremely cheap too, to the degree that I've never heard of anyone complaining about that in particular.
The fact that no one complains is the point and why it happens. In March of 2020 Washington closed all fishing due to COVID. There were some protests...I went to one in Pasco, there were about 10 other people there. When the police announced we'd be arrested if we did not leave I thought for sure he had it to do. He knew far more about those conservative Washingtonians than I did...they all, every last one of them, did as they were told. I did not, but since I was the only one left the police ignored me because I was more than 6 feet from anyone. Thats the problem...its not only accepted it is defended and encouraged by the people being governed. For those who do not know eastern Washington is GOP country...it ain't the west side. Yet those people are perfectly OK with such antics and will defend them and insist on even more. They relish the idea of public spaces and land being restricted to the public in some sort of twisted sense of ecological ideology...yet they don't balk at those same lands being exploited by industry. It wasn't my cup of tea. The weather alone would have been a stretch, the people being shocked if you spoke to them was weird but there love for regulation was shocking to me...and a deal breaker. I'd tolerate it if I were 30 and had a family and my choices were $100k in Atlanta and $150k in Tacoma but I have other options....
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