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re: I still don’t understand this Ron vs Trump thing on this board
Posted on 1/23/24 at 7:47 am to LegalEazyE
Posted on 1/23/24 at 7:47 am to LegalEazyE
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but the establishment coalescing behind Ron and pushing him out there as their Trump Killer candidate is not nonsense or made-up. They just bailed on him recently when they realized he was not going to beat Trump. They have pivoted from him to Neocon Nikki as their last hope to get Democrat and suburban women voters they need to beat Trump.
No doubt about that. Is that Ron's fault? I think Ron is viewed (by the establishment anyway) as someone who potentially can be used/manipulated while in office whereas Trump is a known quantity that tries to put policies in place antithetical to establishment interests.
Again, I don't view that as Ron's fault, per se. He was just the best non-Trump option for many people.
Posted on 1/23/24 at 7:49 am to BengalOnTheBay
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Again, I don't view that as Ron's fault, per se
100% on Donny's camp. Republicans never shy away from competition. Just Donny.
The Trumpettes got pissed because Ron did something we should hope all good leaders do.
Posted on 1/23/24 at 8:20 am to BengalOnTheBay
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but the establishment coalescing behind Ron and pushing him out there as their Trump Killer candidate is not nonsense or made-up. They just bailed on him recently when they realized he was not going to beat Trump. They have pivoted from him to Neocon Nikki as their last hope to get Democrat and suburban women voters they need to beat Trump.
No doubt about that. Is that Ron's fault? I think Ron is viewed (by the establishment anyway) as someone who potentially can be used/manipulated while in office whereas Trump is a known quantity that tries to put policies in place antithetical to establishment interests.
This makes perfect sense so long as you don't actually look at Trump's record and who he surrounded himself with in office and you don't look at DeSantis' record and who he has surrounded himself with. I mean unless you think Chris Rufo and Joe Adapapo and the like are Establishment types. Go look at DeSantis' last Legislative session and get back to me, it was basically a conservative wet dream of everything to take away power from the government, reduce taxes and spending, and maximize freedom for individuals.
The reality is most Trump supporters just love Trump because of how he makes them feel. They will excuse anything he does from pushing Amnesty to appointing Wray to everything around Covid because they are more attached to him than a 14 year old girl is to Taylor Swift.
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