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re: Judge refuses to dismiss subway chokehold death case against Marine veteran Daniel Penny

Posted on 1/17/24 at 5:41 pm to
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/17/24 at 5:41 pm to
He’s not.

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This is an extreme example that may not be fully true, but there are hundreds of other similar stories who didn't result in death. In all of these scenarios, dozens and dozens of unvaccinated people ended up creating negative externalities that negatively affected others. If this case is true, they killed this man, effectively.

If you are unvaccinated and you end up taking up hospital resources, you're ultimately denying healthcare to others. This is a zero-sum game at this point and there is no way around that fact.

This completely removes the "personal healthcare decision" argument from the table. If your choices lead to a negative outcome to others, then your choices are well beyond just a personal choice. This is the part of the argument that many unvaccinated people refuse to admit (For obvious reasons. Nobody wants to admit that they're a villain).

Also, this is nothing like the "obesity" counter re: heart disease. Yeah obesity causes all sorts of personal issues that negatively affect that individual's health. But, at this time at least, there isn't a dramatic increase of heart/diabetes cases that are causing hospitals to deny healthcare to others. As soon as that happens, this argument will have some logic, but it's not here, presently.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 5:46 pm to
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If you are unvaccinated and you end up taking up hospital resources, you're ultimately denying healthcare to others. This is a zero-sum game at this point and there is no way around that fact.


Attempting to explain this away as a "thought exercise" is far beyond AggieHank levels of dishonesty and delusion.

I mean, it can't be any clearer what SFP's insane position on the matter is, yet despite being CLEARLY busted, he urges us not to trust our lying eyes.

What a POS...
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