My god. Your notion of economics is based on 'resource = product.' It explains your idiotic notions of autarky and your inability to understand sovereign debt.

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The Russians can crank out 3 million rounds of 152mm a year. We can produce around 336,000 a year of 155mm currently. And this after almost two years of fighting in Ukraine. And our GDP is 12x times higher than theirs.

You realize he already addressed this in his post. If the US oriented its economy to beating Russia, it could do so easily.

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This deficiency mirrored down the line, if it’s a military good, odds are the Russians have a much larger manufacturing base for it, and can produce it in much greater numbers than we can, with whatever our equivalent is.

And this has translated to them becoming bogged down in a former sphere of influence, unable to dominate in the air, only taking defensive positions. It's literally 'numbers big = good' logic that the Russians themselves favor.

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Russia is an almost self sufficient economy

You keep saying this and it doesn't become closer to being true despite how much you repeat it.

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there’s little they need to import, and that again is a strength

Amazing.

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As Raytheon noted, we would have trouble going to war against China, because the basic components in their missiles are manufactured in China.

But we can build the infrastructure relatively quickly to have the basic components constructed in several areas. Things can change quickly.

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Posted by Lima Whiskey

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Posted on 12/17/23 at 6:30 pm to crazy4lsu

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But we can build the infrastructure relatively quickly to have the basic components constructed in several areas. Things can change quickly.

If that was true we would have defeated Russia in Ukraine.

Rebuilding, for example, our shipbuilding capacity would take 15 to 20 years. This isn’t the 1940s where we could retool existing plants for wartime production, critically, we also don’t have the trained workforce for it either.

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If the US oriented its economy to beating Russia, it could do so easily.

If Ukraine is so important, if winning is so vital, and retooling our economy is so easy, then why didn’t we do that?

Are we choosing to actively sabotage Ukraine then?

Why do we want Ukraine to lose?

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And this has translated to them becoming bogged down in a former sphere of influence, unable to dominate in the air, only taking defensive positions.

They actually dominate the air. The introduction of their version of a JDAM dramatically change the air war.

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becoming bogged down

They’re slowly grinding their way through the Ukrainians. Arestovich said Ukraine has lost 300k dead. Which means Ukraine has suffered perhaps 900k to 1200k wounded. Kolomoisky‘s TV station published a total casualty figure of 1.1 million. The death toll, and Russias firepower is what’s allowing them to advance in places like Mariynka, and Avdiivka.

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