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re: AR15 purchase
Posted on 10/29/23 at 8:04 pm to Flats
Posted on 10/29/23 at 8:04 pm to Flats
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Because the parts don’t work or because they join some gun forums and everybody tells them their hardware just doesn’t have enough Tier 1 mojo?
It's inevitable. It's like a disease. It's viral and it's gone from the ridiculous to the sublime.
In the meantime there are smart men out there who have enough base model M4s and/or various iterations there-of that ... well, they could outfit a platoon.
There is a rule ... one is none and two is one.
Put enough high pressure rounds through anything and it will eventually fail. If you have two ... then the other one goes into action. When that one fails you combine parts from the two and turn them back into one.
Now, if you have twenty .... not only might you outfit your immediate family and closest friends but you'll have spares. Entire muzzle to bullplate replacement parts kits.
Anyways, rant off.
Also, I despise the big AR gun board because it is just as you describe it to be. A lot of poseurs playing soldier.
Posted on 10/29/23 at 8:35 pm to scrooster
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It's inevitable. It's like a disease. It's viral and it's gone from the ridiculous to the sublime. In the meantime there are smart men out there who have enough base model M4s and/or various iterations there-of that ... well, they could outfit a platoon. There is a rule ... one is none and two is one. Put enough high pressure rounds through anything and it will eventually fail. If you have two ... then the other one goes into action. When that one fails you combine parts from the two and turn them back into one. Now, if you have twenty .... not only might you outfit your immediate family and closest friends but you'll have spares. Entire muzzle to bullplate replacement parts kits. Anyways, rant off. Also, I despise the big AR gun board because it is just as you describe it to be. A lot of poseurs playing soldier.
Bro, I’m doing this as a new hobby because I like to shoot. Not trying to arm my neighbors. If shite ever hits the fan it’s literally a roll of the dice whether you’ll live or die.
Posted on 10/29/23 at 9:21 pm to scrooster
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In the meantime there are smart men out there who have enough base model M4s and/or various iterations there-of that ... well, they could outfit a platoon
This is the way. A rifle is a tool, just like a shovel, they wear out and break. Always have spares.
Posted on 10/30/23 at 9:04 am to scrooster
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Put enough high pressure rounds through anything and it will eventually fail.
Absolutely, but it's that "enough" word that's the issue for 99.99% of gun owners. We'll never shoot out a non stainless barrel, we'll never fatigue a bolt until it fractures. Before the shift to M4s I saw some ragged out A2s and A3s in the Army that had been around a long time and had a lot of abuse, and it all still shot. Most people don't have the time and they're not interested in spending that much money on the 10s of thousands of rounds it would require to break a non-maintenance item on an AR.
Lucky Gunner abused the hell out of these Bushmasters for an ammo test, and the only failures were operational (stuck brass, failure to feed, etc). And none of those even happened with good ammo.
Federal: 10,000 rounds, 0 malfunctions.
Brown Bear: 10,000 rounds, 9 malfunctions (5 stuck cases, 1 magazine-related failure to feed, 3 failures to fully cycle)
Wolf: 10,000 rounds, 15 malfunctions (stuck cases)
Tula: DNF (6,000 rounds in alternate carbine, 3 malfunctions)
https://www.luckygunner.com/labs/brass-vs-steel-cased-ammo/
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