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re: The actual upcoming real estate crisis. CRE loans and vacant office buildings

Posted on 9/26/23 at 10:20 am to
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 9/26/23 at 10:20 am to
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The actual upcoming real estate crisis.
I see you posting all these graphs daily, it obviously seems pretty dire, but what exactly does it mean?

I'm assuming house prices crash, but when do you think we see the actual crash? I know it's just guessing, but are we thinking homes come down by 20%...more?

And then what does that do for interest rates? Not that I expect them get back to the 2.5% level I got in at 3 or so years ago, but I assume a crash is going to eventually make rates come down somewhat, right?
Posted by generalgator87
Member since Nov 2022
377 posts
Posted on 9/26/23 at 11:03 am to
My guess is that any residential crash will be more localized then 2008 unless there is a systemic breakdown for the financial system and basically no bank will lend. You would see major corporate defaults and bankruptcies and tons of job loss for that to happen. No one should be rooting that on.

2008 was a nationwide crash, but there have been many other housing recessions that have tended to hurt some regions worse than others. 2008 also had the issue of a lot more inventory available, so the crash was deeper and more long lasting.

With the amount of migration going on these days, places in the sunbelt are less likely to see a major crash then somewhere like San Francisco or Chicago.

If there is a major crash/recession/depression, we would definitely see a lowering of interest rates. Trying to time that or predict where rates would end up would be a fools errand.
This post was edited on 9/26/23 at 11:48 am
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