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re: Biden tapping Bill Nye the 'not really a' science guy

Posted on 10/1/23 at 11:00 am to
Posted by Peebles
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Posted on 10/1/23 at 11:00 am to
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Because you're pretty sure natural climate change is primary driven by orbital cycles. What are you missing?


When you're ready to tell a story that stitches all your supposed evidence together in a self consistent manner, go for it. Thats how normal people convince other people they're right. They don't just throw up random plots and say "I bet you don't understand this!" because that's infantile and pointless and only convinces the mindless sheep who already think that way that they're right.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 10/1/23 at 11:29 am to
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convince other people they're right
Nah, you've made it clear that an "Armchair scientist" couldn't convince you the sky is blue, ice is cold, or the sun is warm. So you'll have to convince yourself.

My role here is to point you in the direction of water, not to drink it for you.
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only convinces the mindless sheep who already think that way that they're right.
You are a scientist, right? A least you play one on the internet.

So you laid out a one hypothesis. Orbital cycles drive climate, Milankovitch and whatnot. It's certainly a more reasonable premise than cowfarts and volcanoes, especially when isolated to the quaternary. But of course, climate change enjoys no such isolation.

In fact whereas by definition, orbital cycles would need be the norm rather than the exception, our quaternary climate is the exception rather than the norm. Hence the question, does the Cenozoic climate appear compatible with a Milankovitch premise?
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