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re: Need help with a hybrid lifting/cardio program

Posted on 7/20/23 at 9:01 am to
Posted by hob
Member since Dec 2017
2143 posts
Posted on 7/20/23 at 9:01 am to
I went about 12 years ago. I was 4lbs over the limit. Not sure about my blood pressure.

The clinic at Philmont took my measurements and told me to have fun.

If you're carrying a 70 lb backpack you're doing it wrong. There's a scale at the bus station at basecamp. My backpack weighted 50 lbs fully loaded when I got on the bus. It was just over 30 lbs upon return to basecamp. The difference was food and water. Teenagers make better pack mules than middle aged adults. Split the crew weight up accordingly.

To train I'd recommend a lot of hiking with weight on your back. I recommend you load the backpack and do a lot of hiking. Try different weight distributions in the backpack to see what feels best. It's the proper functional training for your trip. You'll build up cardio and strength. You can do the same with a weighted vest.

Hiking at altitude sucks coming from flatland. Hiking in the midday heat sucks. Hiking in the afternoon rain showers sucks. I recommend your crew wake up early, start hiking, have breakfast on the rail and get to your destination shortly after noon. Setup camp and take a nap during the rain/heat.

Oh yeah, drink plenty of water. Even if you don't feel the need. It's the cure for altitude sickness.



Posted by hogfly
Fayetteville, AR
Member since May 2014
4667 posts
Posted on 7/20/23 at 10:18 am to
I did Philmont as a teenager, and I have adult friends who have done it recently as adults. As the other poster said, you need to hike with your pack quite a bit and in the gear you'll wear.

I imagine you're at least a somewhat veteran backpacker and know this, but be sure your boots are broken in well. This isn't as big of a deal with modern hiking boots, but if you're wearing something heavier like a Merrell Wilderness or other mainly leather boot, be sure you've broken them in. Take care of your feet while there. Blisters will occur and they suck, but you can do a lot to alleviate them with good, dry socks (change socks when necessary) and good, broken-in footwear.

With your size, age and the weight of a pack, your knees are likely going to bother you on long descents. Hiking poles might help.

I would definitely take some extended hikes with a weighted pack. Figure out how to wear it so it doesn't rub you raw when under load. When I was training, we basically hiked stadium bleachers up and down for an hour or more, but actually getting out and hiking is a lot more fun.

Have fun! It's an epic adventure.
This post was edited on 7/20/23 at 10:22 am
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