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Pre emergent advice
Posted on 7/17/23 at 8:06 am
Posted on 7/17/23 at 8:06 am
I just recently built a house on 2 acres of land that was mostly St. Augustine with some carpet grass and Bahia before located in South LA.
We brought in top soil to spread thin over the entire 2 acres to level the yard in hopes that the St. Augustine would pop up through. Well we did this back in May and since then, it didn’t rain for 2 months so only about 50% popped through. The other 50% pretty much got over run by barnyard grass mostly and some goose and crab grass. During the winter, we have a lot of clover and chickweeds also from past experiences.
Anyway, I’m trying to come up with a schedule for pre and post emergents and here is what I’ve gathered based on other posts in this group and I’m looking fire advice and critiques. I just spot treated most of my yard with tenacity just to slow the spread and seeds from the barnyard grass.
Mid February & early October: spray Prodiamine (1/2 annual rate) + MSM turf. 6 weeks after that, spray simazine (1/2 annual rate).
For Post emergent: I still have some tenacity left and possibly mix that with MSM turf and spot treat as needed. I know a lot of people recommend Celsius but I don’t want to damage the carpet grass just yet as grass is better than weeds atm.
Any advice is appreciated, but my questions are: is that a good time to put down those products? Do I need to do the split application? Should I mix a sedge product with one of the pre emergents?
I’ve also dabbled with the idea of getting my applicators license to have access to Atrazine and even other insecticide chemicals - does anyone have any experience with this and do they find it as worth while? I didn’t see any posts on this forum related to it so it’d be nice have those people share their inputs.
We brought in top soil to spread thin over the entire 2 acres to level the yard in hopes that the St. Augustine would pop up through. Well we did this back in May and since then, it didn’t rain for 2 months so only about 50% popped through. The other 50% pretty much got over run by barnyard grass mostly and some goose and crab grass. During the winter, we have a lot of clover and chickweeds also from past experiences.
Anyway, I’m trying to come up with a schedule for pre and post emergents and here is what I’ve gathered based on other posts in this group and I’m looking fire advice and critiques. I just spot treated most of my yard with tenacity just to slow the spread and seeds from the barnyard grass.
Mid February & early October: spray Prodiamine (1/2 annual rate) + MSM turf. 6 weeks after that, spray simazine (1/2 annual rate).
For Post emergent: I still have some tenacity left and possibly mix that with MSM turf and spot treat as needed. I know a lot of people recommend Celsius but I don’t want to damage the carpet grass just yet as grass is better than weeds atm.
Any advice is appreciated, but my questions are: is that a good time to put down those products? Do I need to do the split application? Should I mix a sedge product with one of the pre emergents?
I’ve also dabbled with the idea of getting my applicators license to have access to Atrazine and even other insecticide chemicals - does anyone have any experience with this and do they find it as worth while? I didn’t see any posts on this forum related to it so it’d be nice have those people share their inputs.
Posted on 7/17/23 at 9:08 am to KbaCPA13
Specticle is a better pre em than simazine. It is more expensive though. If you do simazine I would do a mid September and beginning of November application. In the spring prodiamine when soil temps near 55 degrees.
For post em control msm will get most weeds but Celsius is better. How are you applying it? Backpacking would take a while on 2 acres.
For post em control msm will get most weeds but Celsius is better. How are you applying it? Backpacking would take a while on 2 acres.
Posted on 7/17/23 at 9:19 am to ronk
I’m hoping that after the pre emergents, I won’t have a whole lot of post emergent control to do after and was actually planning on backpack spraying. From spraying the tenacity over the yard, I’ve probably spent a good 5 hours spot spraying over the course of 3 days or so.
I’ve never really done any pre emergents before so I’m not sure how effective the whole process is.
I’ve never really done any pre emergents before so I’m not sure how effective the whole process is.
Posted on 7/17/23 at 10:15 am to KbaCPA13
Pre ems are the tits. It is very hard to fight poa, rescue grass, crabgrass, etc after it is germinated. If you want to have a nice lawn it is going to take time. Effective use of pre ems will greatly reduce that time.
Posted on 7/17/23 at 7:37 pm to ronk
Yessir! I was also told not to do prodiamine in the fall an d just do split applications of Simazine. I do plan on trying to grow some bermuda in the fall just to try to fill in the bare spots so I'm not fighting it again next year.
Its just too hot to plant anything right now and try to keep it wet when its 95 degrees out.
Its just too hot to plant anything right now and try to keep it wet when its 95 degrees out.
Posted on 7/17/23 at 9:25 pm to KbaCPA13
Prodiamine is great on crabgrass so it should be used in the spring. As noted by crawdude dimension is better than prodiamine if you miss the early spring application and the crabgrass is smaller than 3 tillers.
Posted on 7/17/23 at 10:24 pm to ronk
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If you want to have a nice lawn it is going to take time.
This statement is so true. Especially if your yard is big. It’s a grind. It’s no sprint it’s a marathon. I like getting out there and working. Sure beats sitting on the couch.
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