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When Does Gary Crowton & Coaching Take Some Blame For Lee?

Posted on 11/18/08 at 2:35 pm
Posted by TigahRag
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Posted on 11/18/08 at 2:35 pm
everyone's talking about how inconsistent this kid is .. one minute he looks like a high school QB and the next he looks like he could play on sundays .. the kid's got a cannon arm and all the raw ability in the world .. when does crowton start taking a little blame for not fine tuning this kid's decision making process a little better ..
Posted by faxis
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Posted on 11/18/08 at 2:36 pm to
Did you not see EVERY PRESS CONFERENCE AND THE LES MILES SHOW SINCE THE FREAKING GAME?

Posted by Doc Fenton
New York, NY
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 11/18/08 at 2:39 pm to
For what, telling him not to stare down receivers so much? I don't see what good that would do, except to just publicly embarrass Lee.
Posted by Prominentwon
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Posted on 11/18/08 at 2:42 pm to
quote:

when does crowton start taking a little blame for not fine tuning this kid's decision making process a little better ..


I see where you're going with this, but isn't his problems usually associated with being a freshman and young? I would think the issues he is having now isn't something new with young QB's.
Posted by Tiger_n_ATL
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2005
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Posted on 11/18/08 at 2:45 pm to
quote:

when does crowton start taking a little blame for not fine tuning this kid's decision making process a little better ..
I've been saying this for two weeks, and haven't got a good answer yet.
Posted by Majik
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 11/18/08 at 2:55 pm to
Its like in The Karate Kid. You don't blame Miyagi for for Daniel getting his arse kicked at first. But after practice and hard work he became a great fighter. With time, practice, and hard work only then will Lee be ready as a great SEC QB.
Posted by ATLTiger
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Posted on 11/18/08 at 2:56 pm to
Is Saban the leader of Cobra Kai? Or is it Urban?
Posted by footballislife
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 11/18/08 at 3:01 pm to
Well, they have dumbed down the play book a good deal already. About 4 months ago this guy was a third string qb still learning the plays.

Not sure what else they can do at this point.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 11/18/08 at 3:02 pm to
quote:

everyone's talking about how inconsistent this kid is .. one minute he looks like a high school QB and the next he looks like he could play on sundays .. the kid's got a cannon arm and all the raw ability in the world .. when does crowton start taking a little blame for not fine tuning this kid's decision making process a little better ..


they took the blame for playcalling against troy, thats all you can ask for at this point
Posted by LouisianaLonghorn
Austin, Texas
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 11/18/08 at 3:16 pm to
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Not sure what else they can do at this point.

Lee's strength is his vertical passing ability. He performs much better if you turn him lose and let him throw the ball down the field. Crowton has essentially been setting him up for failure by having him repeatedly throw into traffic in the middle of the field...an area where it is obvious to even the casual observer that Lee doesn't see very well yet. Les admitted after the Troy game that they have handcuffed JL to an extent with these calls. I'm hoping that both the QB and the coaches learned something from this. I guess we'll find out on Saturday.
Posted by Excelsior
USA
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 11/18/08 at 3:17 pm to
quote:

I see where you're going with this, but isn't his problems usually associated with being a freshman and young? I would think the issues he is having now isn't something new with young QB's.


I think everyone's biggest problem is staring down receivers and even Flynn had that problem bad last year and he was here 5 years.
Posted by S
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Posted on 11/18/08 at 3:18 pm to
Posted by Kickadawgitfeelsgood
Lafayette LA
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 11/18/08 at 3:20 pm to
Crowton is operating with so many restraints, it is laughable you would question his abilities.

Posted by JohnLSU
Death Valley, LA
Member since Aug 2007
7923 posts
Posted on 11/18/08 at 3:24 pm to
quote:

Its like in The Karate Kid. You don't blame Miyagi for for Daniel getting his arse kicked at first. But after practice and hard work he became a great fighter. With time, practice, and hard work only then will Lee be ready as a great SEC QB.





great point
Posted by FMTigerFan
United States
Member since Mar 2008
14 posts
Posted on 11/18/08 at 3:29 pm to
For what it's worth, I spoke to a friend who is a coach in Louisiana that used to coach with coach Crowton when he had those great offenses at La Tech and the comment he made to me was,"Coach Crowton is a great OC, but not so much as a quarterbacks coach. He specifically had QB coaches at La Tech to tutor the QB's. LSU would probably need to look at bringing in a good QB coach".

Now, I don't know who specifically coaches the QB's, but if it's Crowton, they might need to look at another option.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49036 posts
Posted on 11/18/08 at 3:30 pm to
quote:

Lee's strength is his vertical passing ability. He performs much better if you turn him lose and let him throw the ball down the field. Crowton has essentially been setting him up for failure by having him repeatedly throw into traffic in the middle of the field...an area where it is obvious to even the casual observer that Lee doesn't see very well yet.


+1
Posted by Tiger_n_ATL
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2005
33137 posts
Posted on 11/18/08 at 3:32 pm to
quote:

Lee's strength is his vertical passing ability. He performs much better if you turn him lose and let him throw the ball down the field. Crowton has essentially been setting him up for failure by having him repeatedly throw into traffic in the middle of the field...an area where it is obvious to even the casual observer that Lee doesn't see very well yet. Les admitted after the Troy game that they have handcuffed JL to an extent with these calls. I'm hoping that both the QB and the coaches learned something from this. I guess we'll find out on Saturday.
+ 1,000
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
82876 posts
Posted on 11/18/08 at 3:36 pm to

quote:

When Does Gary Crowton & Coaching Take Some Blame For Lee?


Crowton is handcuffed, the offense is dumbed down, and the WRs keep dropping balls. What the else do you expect? Lee HAS to throw to the middle of the field occasionally. LSU cant just run every down and throw out patterns. The coaches are doing what they can, and I doubt any other coach in the nation could do any better than this.
Posted by Gulf Coast Tiger
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 11/18/08 at 3:38 pm to
Have any of ya'll realized that Crowton may be doing a hell of a job to have Lee even playing at this leve?. He may be coaching Lee up.

Honestly, without attending practices and meetings it is hard to tell if Crowton is coaching Lee up or holding Lee back.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49036 posts
Posted on 11/18/08 at 3:39 pm to
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the WRs keep dropping balls


Our WRs don't drop any more balls then any other team in college football.
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