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Coaching absolutes
Posted on 11/17/08 at 9:55 am
Posted on 11/17/08 at 9:55 am
Either Miles is a good coach or he's not. I'm getting really tired of some of this crap. There are really people who think Miles would have been fired had he lost to Troy (and some who still think he should be). The guy won the BCS title less than one year ago.
Mile is an excellent coach that has been through a lot of personnel and staff changes since last year. I personally think we are a QB away from playing for the SEC title. That doesn't scream "team in disarray" to me.
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Posted on 11/17/08 at 9:57 am to Bubba Hotep
That Hat can coach some football, and all the nega-Milesers will be saying that exact same thing as soon as the Cotton Bowl this year, but definitely by the end of next year. Then the following year when things aren't so great - they'll want to fire him again.
Posted on 11/17/08 at 10:22 am to Bubba Hotep
quote:He's a good coach (not a great one) but ONLY if he hires good DC's and OC's. He's got a good OC, but his DC hires this year sucked balls, and we're seeing those results on the field.
Either Miles is a good coach or he's not.
Crowton as OC has also made some very bad mistakes this year putting a freshman QB into some very bad situations, instead of playing into the teams strengths. Overall Crowton is good but he's laid a few eggs this year.
Once Les Miles loses the positive aspects of having very good OC's and DC's, he becomes a very average coach, and that's the result that we have here today.
Posted on 11/17/08 at 10:51 am to Tiger_n_ATL
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Once Les Miles loses the positive aspects of having very good OC's and DC's, he becomes a very average coach, and that's the result that we have here today.
No what we have here today is a bunch of e-dweebs like yourself, that can't & don't want to stop sucking on Saban's teet.
Posted on 11/17/08 at 10:58 am to Sammich
quote:I hate Saban, you dick bag. Although it's stupid to deny he's a good coach.
No what we have here today is a bunch of e-dweebs like yourself, that can't & don't want to stop sucking on Saban's teet.
Posted on 11/17/08 at 10:59 am to Bubba Hotep
Miles is not a great coach. He is a mediocre coach. He use to be a great manager, getting great coaches around him. He did not do a great job this season in that aspect.
Posted on 11/17/08 at 11:02 am to Tiger_n_ATL
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Although it's stupid to deny he's a good coach.
Please explain why his Defense was ranked #75 in Total Defense in 2001 with that roster. Why he lost to UAB. Why in 5 years he had 2 double win digit seasons.
This post was edited on 11/17/08 at 11:04 am
Posted on 11/17/08 at 11:05 am to Tigahbait25
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Miles is not a great coach. He is a mediocre coach. He use to be a great manager, getting great coaches around him. He did not do a great job this season in that aspect
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Posted on 11/17/08 at 2:27 pm to Tiger_n_ATL
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Either Miles is a good coach or he's not.
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He's a good coach (not a great one) but ONLY if he hires good DC's and OC's. He's got a good OC, but his DC hires this year sucked balls, and we're seeing those results on the field.
Crowton as OC has also made some very bad mistakes this year putting a freshman QB into some very bad situations, instead of playing into the teams strengths. Overall Crowton is good but he's laid a few eggs this year.
Once Les Miles loses the positive aspects of having very good OC's and DC's, he becomes a very average coach, and that's the result that we have here today.
I think you just described every coach in America. Are you saying that Saban can win with poor coordinators? That's ridiculous. I'm just glad Miles has iron-clad job security so he can do what he feels is best for the program, not not to appease the knee-jerk whims of some internet heroes.
Posted on 11/17/08 at 2:37 pm to Tigahbait25
Yea, but last year he was GOD. He had balls of steel. He loses 3 games to teams ranked in the top 10 and now he is a mediocre coach? Can we please just get real fans to support our team, whether we win or lose, instead of these bandwagon fans who jump off the wagon whenever anything goes wrong.
Posted on 11/17/08 at 2:40 pm to Sammich
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Please explain why his Defense was ranked #75 in Total Defense in 2001 with that roster. Why he lost to UAB. Why in 5 years he had 2 double win digit seasons.
because he and Miles obviously inherited a program in the same exact state, right TigerTap?
Posted on 11/17/08 at 2:59 pm to Sammich
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Although it's stupid to deny he's a good coach.
quote:Because he's a good coach, not a great coach. All good coaches have a bad season or two (see Miles).
Please explain why his Defense was ranked #75 in Total Defense in 2001 with that roster. Why he lost to UAB. Why in 5 years he had 2 double win digit seasons.
Posted on 11/17/08 at 3:01 pm to Bubba Hotep
quote:Ummm. No. Does every coach in the nation have good coordinators? I think not.
I think you just described every coach in America.
quote:No, just the opposite. My arugment had nothing to do with Saban, anyway.
Are you saying that Saban can win with poor coordinators?
quote:Awww. Hell, forget it.
That's ridiculous. I'm just glad Miles has iron-clad job security so he can do what he feels is best for the program, not not to appease the knee-jerk whims of some internet heroes.
Posted on 11/17/08 at 3:02 pm to Tiger_n_ATL
Miles is average.
Anyone thinking he is a great coach doesnt know jack about football.
Anyone thinking he is a great coach doesnt know jack about football.
Posted on 11/17/08 at 3:04 pm to Deactived
Let's lay it out there then. Who are the "great" coaches?
Posted on 11/17/08 at 3:06 pm to Deactived
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Anyone thinking he is a great coach doesnt know jack about football.
What do you know about football that we don't? There are only a few ways to measure success: wins & losses, championships, recruiting rankings. So far, Miles has LSU at a level greater than any LSU coach in history, and as good or better than any coach in the country. Is there some secret measurement you know about that I don't?
Posted on 11/17/08 at 3:08 pm to Bubba Hotep
quote:Interview prowess
Is there some secret measurement you know about that I don't?
Posted on 11/17/08 at 3:11 pm to Bubba Hotep
I like Miles as a head coach, I think he made a bad decision promoting those guys to Co DC.
Secondary, Special Teams, and Linebackers. No surprise that the Current DC's coached those personnel. I think he made a bad choice, but who knows, he might have offered someone outside the program and they turned him down.
Secondary, Special Teams, and Linebackers. No surprise that the Current DC's coached those personnel. I think he made a bad choice, but who knows, he might have offered someone outside the program and they turned him down.
Posted on 11/17/08 at 3:13 pm to Tiger_n_ATL
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Crowton as OC has also made some very bad mistakes this year putting a freshman QB into some very bad situations
please explain how, once Hatch was injured, he could have done anything other than what he did with his freshman QB?
Posted on 11/17/08 at 3:20 pm to Bubba Hotep
The good thing about Saban is he has no loyalties to asst. coaches. If they don't do a good job its off with their heads. Results are what matters no excuses.
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