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re: Succession S4 EP1

Posted on 3/28/23 at 2:31 pm to
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 3/28/23 at 2:31 pm to
I agree with almost all of that and as I said, he's one of my favorites so I am probably always going to be team Tom. This isn't me trying to defend Shivs actions in their marriage at all.

I am just simply talking about a "HE STILL LOVES HER" argument. I mean, he doesn't. He was like the definition of apathetic towards it. That was a great scene at the end and just on acting alone, they knocked it out of the park. But that's not really a scene where I'm feeling sorry for him because he's moved on and doesn't care what happens other than wanting to talk about it. It wasn't a want to talk about it so they can reconcile talk.

I will say, I dislike Ken 10x more than I do Shiv though. Ken is just a douche and tries to be cool and it comes off super lame and corny. Can't really find a single reason to like him. Shiv is at least an interesting character with some depth to her character, even if it is her being unlikeable for numerous reasons.
Posted by Rhames
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Posted on 3/28/23 at 7:41 pm to
quote:

I am just simply talking about a "HE STILL LOVES HER" argument. I mean, he doesn't. He was like the definition of apathetic towards it. That was a great scene at the end and just on acting alone, they knocked it out of the park. But that's not really a scene where I'm feeling sorry for him because he's moved on and doesn't care what happens other than wanting to talk about it. It wasn't a want to talk about it so they can reconcile talk.


You may ultimately be right but I definitely read all of Tom’s actions as still loving shiv and desperate for her to love him back. The whole call her for being out with Ken’s ex was the first sign. If he was over her, he wouldn’t give two shits if she found out he was trying to gloat while also trying to display he was moving on.

He wanted to talk everything out and offers to make love to her, not frick her. I most definitely read it as him still loving her. Could be a wrong for sure.
This post was edited on 3/28/23 at 7:44 pm
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