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re: Famed atheist and biologist calls the idea of more than two genders “utter nonsense”
Posted on 3/24/23 at 7:33 pm to AwgustaDawg
Posted on 3/24/23 at 7:33 pm to AwgustaDawg
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It is not possible for a biological man to be a biological woman. It is possible that man may identify their self as feminine. It isn’t common but it does indeed happen. It really disturbs people when an individual does not meet their expectations. To the point that they will support legislation to force compliance with those expectations. You can’t do this and also support the concept of liberty.
This is a total straw man, and it's all the left has in this argument. Same as free speech - you have the right to say what you want, but be ready for people to react the way they want. In this case, the fallacy is the conflation of "identity" and truth. All we're saying is that there is truth, and beyond that it doesn't matter. No one has to accept anyone else's pretend-world, that's not what freedom means. Forcing others to do so is spitting in the face of truth, it is not nearly equivalent to supporting liberty. For animals and humans, gender and sex are the same. For anything else it is irrelevant, mere personification, or just adjectives. Getting hung up on whether an adjective is generally more male or female is just stupid, and it changes and establishes nothing. It's like saying someone who loves swimming is a fish, it means nothing. They are who they are, they're different how they are different. This whole "gender is a construct" thing as a basis for defining one's identity is counter to reality and truth, and thus should not be taught or embraced. It's psychological delusion.
Posted on 3/24/23 at 7:59 pm to calcotron
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This is a total straw man, and it's all the left has in this argument. Same as free speech - you have the right to say what you want, but be ready for people to react the way they want. In this case, the fallacy is the conflation of "identity" and truth. All we're saying is that there is truth, and beyond that it doesn't matter. No one has to accept anyone else's pretend-world, that's not what freedom means. Forcing others to do so is spitting in the face of truth, it is not nearly equivalent to supporting liberty. For animals and humans, gender and sex are the same. For anything else it is irrelevant, mere personification, or just adjectives. Getting hung up on whether an adjective is generally more male or female is just stupid, and it changes and establishes nothing. It's like saying someone who loves swimming is a fish, it means nothing. They are who they are, they're different how they are different. This whole "gender is a construct" thing as a basis for defining one's identity is counter to reality and truth, and thus should not be taught or embraced. It's psychological delusion.
The issue is akin to free speech. The difference is that there is a concerted effort currently in this country where the ability to identify one’s self is under legislative attack based on ignorance and irrational fear. You are correct you have the right to say what you think, you have no right to dictate others reaction to what you say, short of them resorting to violence. Man does not need a constitution to identify himself. Even in the most draconian of societies this could not be legislated. It has often been oppressed but it has never been removed from the mind of man. That basic human right, to identify one’s self, is being oppressed by legislation today in the US.
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