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re: Famed atheist and biologist calls the idea of more than two genders “utter nonsense”

Posted on 3/23/23 at 9:26 am to
Posted by HouseMom
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 3/23/23 at 9:26 am to
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Gender, on the other hand, has no basis in biology or science.


Correct. This is why people have enjoyed going to funny drag queen brunches in New Orleans for eons. This is why nobody is surprised when a lesbian may dress (culturally) like a man and wear short hair. No big deal. Literally nobody cares.

The big change is now this group is trying to combine culture and biology/science into saying that a trans woman IS a woman and vice versa. If it's just cultural, why the hormone changes? Why the surgeries? Why the NEED to use another restroom if it doesn't really mean anything and it's no big deal?

And to your point about restrooms, you know what you're saying is absurd. The point is to separate boy parts and girl parts because being in a public room with your pants down can make some people uncomfortable and others feel a little too excited. Males and females don't need to be in this situation together, for obvious reasons.

You're being purposefully obtuse.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Member since Jan 2023
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Posted on 3/23/23 at 10:55 am to
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The big change is now this group is trying to combine culture and biology/science into saying that a trans woman IS a woman and vice versa. If it's just cultural, why the hormone changes? Why the surgeries? Why the NEED to use another restroom if it doesn't really mean anything and it's no big deal?



The people who make the claim that the gender they identify as is what makes them either male or female or simply wrong, whether it is a transman who is female or a man who is male. If you a biological male who states that this also means your gender is male your as mistaken as a trans woman who says her gender is what makes her a biological female. We all identify our gender but we do not choose our biological sex.

I can't speak as to why someone would want or need to physically transition so their biological sex and the gender they identify as are in sync. I suspect there is a lot of mental health issues involved....they may be outright insane or they may actually be suffering and transitioning physically with hormones and surgery may make them more comfortable in their own body. It really is not any of my business. It is a personal issue between the individual and their doctors. I don't understand it but the things I don't understand are far greater than those I do like all honest people.

As far as the restroom is concerned given that a restroom can not be biologically male or female and the only thing that provides it a gender is the sign on the door. If there were only 2 genders and bathrooms had a biological sex there would be no unisex bathrooms. There are...a heaping pile of them.

So the bathroom issue is based on the feels. I get it. I don't want anyone in the bathroom with me while I do my business...and try to avoid public restrooms for this reason when practical. I can understand being uncomfortable....that is exactly why trans people want to use the restroom for the gender they identify with, if you listen to their statements. As far as someone getting excited is there any data to suggest trans people are more likely, per capita, to become excited in a public restroom? Isn't it possible that a homosexual could also be bent that way, a bi sexual and even a heterosexual? Folks have all manner of kinks...that one is particularly wierd to me but it ain't up to me. If this is a major concern though an individual should avoid public restrooms because there ain't no telling who is in there getting all worked up, apparently. I don't know why it would be less troubling if they happen to share the same biology....its weird, in my opinion, no matter what.
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