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re: Update on Will Wade Sanctions - Won't Receive Show Cause

Posted on 1/21/23 at 9:33 pm to
Posted by ellessuuuu
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 1/21/23 at 9:33 pm to
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You don’t know this for certain. No one does at this point.

A lot of basketball handlers and middle men who got tied up in the FBI’s case spilled the beans on a lot of people over the course of that investigation. It’s very possible the NCAA has sourced enough to get some direct statements on him. They don’t put out NOAs like they if they don’t have shite. Some may fall on appeal, but they know they will get some of it to stick.

That’s all it takes. My point was that they don’t need HARD evidence like a court. And they absolutely will play fast and loose and bend the rules when they have it in for a person or program, and they definitely have it in for Wade


You really should step away from the computer, you just keeping showing your ignorance.

The handlers who “spilled the beans” did so to the FBI, not the NCAA. If the information didn’t come out in the two trials, guess what, the NCAA can’t get it. The NCAA actually filed a motion requesting the court to require the DOJ to make public some of the investigation docs and information, the DOJ laughed and the court denied the motion. These handlers didn’t cooperate with the NCAA. So no, the NCAA didn’t get information from handlers spilling the beans.

We actually know - and have known since the Dawkins trial 3 years ago - what information is available through the FBI. No smoking guns left on that front. Again, keep up and you would have known this.

Just so you know the new independent review panel process doesn’t allow for appeals. That was only in the old system where the NCAA handled everything in-house.

You clearly haven’t followed the cases that have come out of the independent review process, they have actually done a good job following the applicable bylaws.

Yes, the NCAA wanted to make an example of Wade. They knew Wade’s contract had been amended to include the right to fire him with cause if he’s hit with a L1 or L2 allegation (doesn’t have to be proven). So they made the NOA as bad as they could, giving Woody what he needed to fire him. They got what they wanted, knowing these allegations weren’t going to hold up. See the allegations are made by the NCAA the independent panel determines if they stick.

ETA. Please do yourself a favor and tap out of this conversation, it is painfully obvious you haven’t followed this close enough to speak intelligently.
This post was edited on 1/21/23 at 9:38 pm
Posted by misey94
Hernando, MS
Member since Jan 2007
23736 posts
Posted on 1/21/23 at 10:16 pm to
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The handlers who “spilled the beans” did so to the FBI, not the NCAA. If the information didn’t come out in the two trials, guess what, the NCAA can’t get it. The NCAA actually filed a motion requesting the court to require the DOJ to make public some of the investigation docs and information, the DOJ laughed and the court denied the motion. These handlers didn’t cooperate with the NCAA. So no, the NCAA didn’t get information from handlers spilling the beans.


You keep making these blanket pronouncements, but you don’t know what the NCAA has or doesn’t have. You don’t know that none of the guys I’m talking about have also cooperated with the NCAA outside of that investigation. I’m well aware that the FBI didn’t share evidence. That doesn’t mean none of the same players or others who may have been implicated but skated in that investigation weren’t willing to share information with the NCAA. The guys in that world will trade information for all kinds of things or reasons.

You also have several men’s hoops investigations going on simultaneously. It’s an interconnected world when it comes to recruiting. Do you really believe the NCAA (or their independent board, which the NCAA still has a guiding hand in, by the way) wouldn’t use one investigation to pressure someone to roll on another coach or school they want more in another? My point is that they don’t have to depend on the FBI for information (and I never said they were). They have ways to get someone with information to talk on the record.

You seem to believe whole-heartedly that the NCAA has absolutely nothing. It may not be a smoking gun, but they’ve got something that will be enough to meet their fairly low standards for evidence. It’s just a matter of whether it’s as much as they let on that they have.
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