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re: USC - 2003 National Championship

Posted on 12/17/22 at 6:06 pm to
Posted by Geaux Tahel
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 12/17/22 at 6:06 pm to
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You are now telling me that one of those two polls had the power to render the other one obsolete?


No, you lack reading comprehension. I even said "there was nothing in the agreement that said the AP was obsolete".

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From 1950 through the BCS there were two polls that were universally accepted as having some authority over deciding who was crowned as champions
While the AP and UPI was/is often pointed out back then, the difference is, NEVER WAS EITHER VOTED FOR AS BEING THE method in determining the champ by all schools/coaches.

Again, Sorry. Nothing in what you are saying will change the facts I stated and I'm not trying change any of your opinions. So not sure why you keep bringing up the same opinions.
Posted by OutOfNames
Member since Dec 2019
800 posts
Posted on 12/17/22 at 6:12 pm to
Well, all I know is they don't give out NC's for beating #4. I mean, maybe the AP does, but then again, that's why what they say don't amount to shite.
Posted by MikeTheTiger71
Member since Dec 2021
3069 posts
Posted on 12/17/22 at 6:16 pm to
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NEVER WAS EITHER VOTED FOR AS BEING THE method in determining the champ by all schools/coaches.


And what you keep ignoring is that that also didn’t happen with the BCS. The Coaches’ POLL did not have the power to unilaterally declare their POLL the only arbiter of the national champions. The agreement you keep referencing was between the AFCA and the BCS in relation to their POLL and their poll alone. The schools weren’t party to that agreement and nowhere in the agreement did the coaches agree that they would no longer recognize the AP poll. Even if they did, they had no such power to do so.

Their agreement in and of itself tells us something about the place of the polls in determining the champion. If the BCS actually rendered the polls irrelevant, there would be no need to enter into an agreement with the Coaches’ POLL. They would have just declared a champion and just ignored the polls. That’s not what happened. They made sure one of the polls crowned their champion because the polls still held weight. The Coaches’ POLL had no power to take weight away from the other one.
This post was edited on 12/17/22 at 7:03 pm
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