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re: Brian Kelly and "analytics" on going for 2
Posted on 11/30/22 at 4:40 pm to DrD
Posted on 11/30/22 at 4:40 pm to DrD
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Brian Kelly and "analytics" on going for 2
I didn't hear what he said, but if he said it the way you described, it's a pretty bad sign.
"Analytics" isn't a god to be worshipped that is all knowing. You have to know how to apply analytics and understand what the parameters are in producing the analytics you are reviewing. And there are tons of variables that cannot be considered by analytics such as your team, your opponent, etc.
I've heard coaches say "we have a chart". That means they don't understand why they are making decisions they are making.
LSU should have kicked the extra point. But, I'd respect a different opinion on the subject if Kelly were able to explain why he disagreed. For example, if he said "We thought the most likely scenario to happen was that we were going to have to score 24 points to send it to overtime, and we thought we'd only get 2 more possessions..." the decision would make sense. I disagree based on the time remaining in the game. I didn't think we could survive a drive that ended in an A&M FG. But, at least the logic would make sense.
"Analytics" is a very dumb answer to the question.
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Posted on 11/30/22 at 7:25 pm to moneyg
“LSU should have kicked the extra point.”
Why? Because missing the conversion is more damaging to momentum than making it is beneficial to both momentum and the forthcoming game scenarios? That’s my most charitable read of your point, and it’s the exact reason analytics provide an edge — because our strategic instincts have biases and blind spots. Kicking the can might increase the entertainment value of the game, but if it doesn’t improve our chances of winning, why should a coach do it?
It’s similar to the UT game — do you want to win (need to be risk-seeking when outclassed/losing) or do you want to minimize the margin of defeat? There can be a time and place for the latter, but I won’t criticize coach for choosing the former.
Why? Because missing the conversion is more damaging to momentum than making it is beneficial to both momentum and the forthcoming game scenarios? That’s my most charitable read of your point, and it’s the exact reason analytics provide an edge — because our strategic instincts have biases and blind spots. Kicking the can might increase the entertainment value of the game, but if it doesn’t improve our chances of winning, why should a coach do it?
It’s similar to the UT game — do you want to win (need to be risk-seeking when outclassed/losing) or do you want to minimize the margin of defeat? There can be a time and place for the latter, but I won’t criticize coach for choosing the former.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 7:27 pm to moneyg
Isn’t it amazing how soon we forget that a two pointer won the Bama game and an extra point attempt potentially lost the FL state game. If we failed in the Bama game so many people would question the call. You think either of those outcomes influenced his decision? Bottom line is you can’t win them all and you don’t always make the correct call. Ain’t it nice to be able to Monday morning quarterback.
I like to look at the glass as half full. Three months ago most all of us would have taken 9and 3 and a trip to the SECCG no questions asked. I for one will still take…no questions asked.
I like to look at the glass as half full. Three months ago most all of us would have taken 9and 3 and a trip to the SECCG no questions asked. I for one will still take…no questions asked.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 8:25 pm to moneyg
quote:Should read "we have a chart that is adjusted to how our offense and defense is faring in today's contest".
I've heard coaches say "we have a chart".
Throw out any preconceived percentages if your OL or D is struggling or dominating the opponent either side of the ball.
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