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re: Explain this Goodell conspiracy theory.
Posted on 6/26/22 at 12:46 pm to saints63213
Posted on 6/26/22 at 12:46 pm to saints63213
Exactly. Payton's personality/ego hasn't always meshed with the league's agenda and operating procedures. Benson gave Loomis and Payton pretty much full reign. But I would go further as to take the Payton and Goodell rub started earlier the Super Bowl run. I remember hearing that neither were fans of each other before that.
I would guess there has been what has been roughly 14÷ years of bad blood that really began to boiling during the Super Bowl run. The entire team had an edginess to them and they were playing the game that they wanted to play. It worked but it pissed off Goodell because they weren't handling the media like he wanted them to and snubbed Super Bowl access. Everything started after that. Vicodin allegations, Bountygate, the league trying to force Benson to fire Sean and the heavy handed punishments.
I don't think it got better despite Sean saying differently publicly after the Rams PI game and Goodell trying to save face by having Sean on the rules committee to change the rule. That game was fixed and everyone saw it.
I would guess there has been what has been roughly 14÷ years of bad blood that really began to boiling during the Super Bowl run. The entire team had an edginess to them and they were playing the game that they wanted to play. It worked but it pissed off Goodell because they weren't handling the media like he wanted them to and snubbed Super Bowl access. Everything started after that. Vicodin allegations, Bountygate, the league trying to force Benson to fire Sean and the heavy handed punishments.
I don't think it got better despite Sean saying differently publicly after the Rams PI game and Goodell trying to save face by having Sean on the rules committee to change the rule. That game was fixed and everyone saw it.
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Posted on 6/26/22 at 1:34 pm to Le Tenia
If you want to get completely honest, I think the NFL is fixed at the "soft" level, meaning the games aren't scripted but you could, if you want, influence some teams having a good (or bad) season. Sort of along the lines of "let's not be blatant, but give Team A the benefit of the doubt on calls". The talent parity is close enough that you could make a huge impact, in very subtle ways.
I don't think it goes on often, but it does happen. Brady became a national sweetheart, as did Manning, and their teams would have the slightest edge in calls because of that.
Afterall, it's not financially sound to have your superstars on bad teams, they won't stay superstars very long if that's the case. And that would make marketing (making money) harder.
I think it's no coincidence that the Saints suddenly emerged as a playoff contender right after Katrina, that was a national feel-good story. We even had U2 making a special concert appearance and song about the team... it would have been a waste if the Saints went 4-12 with all that going on.
So, we got the benefits usually reserved for, say, the Cowboys (America's Team), or the Patriots (Brady).
But Payton wasn't gracious about it, got a little arrogant. And so Goodell has been punishing him and the Saints ever since. I think some times, it gets a bit too obvious, like the no-call (I don't think it was meant to be that obvious, but I do think the Rams were meant to win if at all possible).
If you look at the way things have gone, it makes some sense. Look at the Rams become a Super Bowl contender just as soon as they go to LA, and have a Super Bowl assigned to that city. This, after decades of being mediocre. Look at the Bucs, you take a team last in the division, give them Brady (a 40 yr old QB the Saints thoroughly dominated) and a few other guys, and they win the Super Bowl.
I don't think it goes on often, but it does happen. Brady became a national sweetheart, as did Manning, and their teams would have the slightest edge in calls because of that.
Afterall, it's not financially sound to have your superstars on bad teams, they won't stay superstars very long if that's the case. And that would make marketing (making money) harder.
I think it's no coincidence that the Saints suddenly emerged as a playoff contender right after Katrina, that was a national feel-good story. We even had U2 making a special concert appearance and song about the team... it would have been a waste if the Saints went 4-12 with all that going on.
So, we got the benefits usually reserved for, say, the Cowboys (America's Team), or the Patriots (Brady).
But Payton wasn't gracious about it, got a little arrogant. And so Goodell has been punishing him and the Saints ever since. I think some times, it gets a bit too obvious, like the no-call (I don't think it was meant to be that obvious, but I do think the Rams were meant to win if at all possible).
If you look at the way things have gone, it makes some sense. Look at the Rams become a Super Bowl contender just as soon as they go to LA, and have a Super Bowl assigned to that city. This, after decades of being mediocre. Look at the Bucs, you take a team last in the division, give them Brady (a 40 yr old QB the Saints thoroughly dominated) and a few other guys, and they win the Super Bowl.
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