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quote: Guys who want to commit mass murders can and WILL get their hands in a gun no matter an age requirement. If that were true why did the perpetrator in Uvalde wait until just after he turned 18 to purchase a weapon? Is it your assertion that at 17 he was peaceful, but the day he turned 18 he turned homicidal? Or maybe it's that as soon as he was legally (easily) able to obtain a gun, he did so. Obviously. quote: Take a man’s gun who someone (possibly with an I’ll-meaning agenda against another) reports to law-enforcement will likely embolden them if they wish to kill. Luckily at that point the homicidal person won't have a gun to commit said killing with. quote: Other than what’s already in place to impede the law-abiding citizen’s purchase of a firearm? Yes. quote: The bad guys/felons aren’t stupid enough to risk jail time knowing a background check will catch them. Stronger background checks would also include stricter penalties for straw purchases. quote: I’ll ask you again. Make up a reasonable example of an instance where any of the measures you tout would stop a person bent on using a firearm to kill people. Glad I could help you by doing that. I'm happy to hear you're on board with these measures now, since your questions were answered

Not so fast, lol.

Uvalde: do we know he waited to commit murder until he was 18? Or did he lawfully acquire a gun with no ill-intent at the time? I don’t know. Besides, the age requirement ultimately didn’t prevent the crime. I still think if he’d wanted to commit the crime prior he’d have had little trouble finding a gun. Admittedly I haven’t soaked up the news on Uvalde, perhaps these questions have been answered. But what little I do know seems to indicate this started as a domestic “kill grandma” that escalated?

Red flag: Sure, you disarm the man in the short term. Hopefully he “cools”. But the guy who’s desperate to kill will get a gun on the street or will steal one. The big problem for me here is the constitutionality of seizing a person’s firearms based on a report of an individual who may or may not have ulterior motives and is falsely reporting. Ultimately this is going to be decided by the Supreme Court, sooner or later.

Background Checks: My points still stand that background checks will be easily avoided. Sure, it takes more effort to acquire a gun through illegal methods but it doesn’t stop it for bad actors. I’m ok going through a background check because I know I’ll pass it. And if I couldn’t I wouldn’t be the guy acquiring one illegally.

Straw Purchases: I mean sure, you can make the penalty worse. But the current one is pretty stiff. I don’t see someone telling their friend or spouse, “Man, have you seen the tougher penalties for straw purchases? I can get 20 years instead of 10 now, so I’m not helping you get a gun.” I’m all for tougher laws for straw purchases but don’t see the typical person who’s willing to make a straw purchase deterred any more than they might already be. Hell, if a murder is committed using a firearm it is determined to have been acquired via straw I say the violator should be subject to murder charges.

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An illegal firearm purchase (straw purchase) is a federal crime. An illegal firearm purchase can bring a felony conviction sentence of ten years in jail and a fine of up to $250,000. Buying a gun for someone who can't can cost you your good name and land you in big trouble.

Straw Law