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re: UK All Cause Mortality Data by Vax Status
Posted on 5/10/22 at 11:28 am to BurntOrangeMan
Posted on 5/10/22 at 11:28 am to BurntOrangeMan
BurntOrangeMan,
Can it really be that 1600 for every 1 saved in the 10-14 group? That's insane.
I've always been pro-freedom on the vax decision and am pureblood along with my whole family. But this is really tough to believe.
The others age groups seem pretty easy to understand and I can buy those numbers easily.
Can it really be that 1600 for every 1 saved in the 10-14 group? That's insane.
I've always been pro-freedom on the vax decision and am pureblood along with my whole family. But this is really tough to believe.
The others age groups seem pretty easy to understand and I can buy those numbers easily.
Posted on 5/10/22 at 11:30 am to jp4lsu
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Can it really be that 1600 for every 1 saved in the 10-14 group? That's insane.
Because no one age 10-14 dies of COVID.
Posted on 5/10/22 at 12:17 pm to jp4lsu
"ACM ratio vs. risk/benefit analysis
Now that we have the basics out of the way, I want to explain in greater detail the difference between the ACM ratio and the risk/benefit number and why the latter is what we should be focusing on.
For example, Toby Rogers estimated that we kill 117 kids from the COVID vaccine for every child we might save from dying of COVID in the 5 to 11 age range.
Here, in an even older cohort (10 to 14), we found it is 1600 to 1. The problem with this young age range is that there are so few deaths, that there is a lot of statistical noise since the denominator is so small (close to 0). But the UK data clearly showed that vaccinating kids younger than 20 years old is insane.
Arguing whether it is 117 or 1600 is like rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic. Just say “no.”"
Now that we have the basics out of the way, I want to explain in greater detail the difference between the ACM ratio and the risk/benefit number and why the latter is what we should be focusing on.
For example, Toby Rogers estimated that we kill 117 kids from the COVID vaccine for every child we might save from dying of COVID in the 5 to 11 age range.
Here, in an even older cohort (10 to 14), we found it is 1600 to 1. The problem with this young age range is that there are so few deaths, that there is a lot of statistical noise since the denominator is so small (close to 0). But the UK data clearly showed that vaccinating kids younger than 20 years old is insane.
Arguing whether it is 117 or 1600 is like rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic. Just say “no.”"
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