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Posted on 4/28/24 at 8:39 am to CitizenK
Posted on 4/28/24 at 8:39 am to CitizenK
The shortage of welders goes back even further than that, Citizen K. Since we're telling off-topic old stories ...
In 1997, I gave a tour of Louisiana to then-Sen. Bob Smith of New Hampshire. Sen. Smith was supposedly considering a presidential campaign in 2000, and that would have obviously been difficult for a small-state senator, but this is the kind of thing that happens as people want to make connections for the future.
Smith got to sit in Tiger Stadium as the guest of then-State Rep. Jim Donelon and watch LSU beat #1 Florida (the atmosphere of which completely blew his mind), so his trip to Louisiana was certainly not without profit, but ...
As part of his Louisiana trip, we toured Avondale Shipyards and were told that they had a bunch of Indian guys there on work visas, because they couldn't find welders to train, even at the starting price of $17 per hour (which would be over $33 in today's dollars).
In 1997, I gave a tour of Louisiana to then-Sen. Bob Smith of New Hampshire. Sen. Smith was supposedly considering a presidential campaign in 2000, and that would have obviously been difficult for a small-state senator, but this is the kind of thing that happens as people want to make connections for the future.
Smith got to sit in Tiger Stadium as the guest of then-State Rep. Jim Donelon and watch LSU beat #1 Florida (the atmosphere of which completely blew his mind), so his trip to Louisiana was certainly not without profit, but ...
As part of his Louisiana trip, we toured Avondale Shipyards and were told that they had a bunch of Indian guys there on work visas, because they couldn't find welders to train, even at the starting price of $17 per hour (which would be over $33 in today's dollars).
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Posted on 4/28/24 at 9:15 am to GOP_Tiger
That was around the time that Turner Industries started a training program in LA prisons for non-violent offenders who would have guaranteed jobs upon release. They dropped the program by 2001 due the extremely high percentage who returned to old ways within a year.
So we progress to 2010 when a company couldn't find American welders at over $200 per hour, with guaranteed 60 hr work weeks (overtime pay out the wazoo) to relocate for 4 years.
This was a big issue in build out of field production facilities in Bakken at about the same time. The propane tank fabrication plant opened since then at Fargo had to be shutdown a year ago. Not enough welders, so the new company builds them all in Mexico. The cost of shipping to ND is around $100,000 each, so Fargo was easily competitive.but for lack of labor.
So we progress to 2010 when a company couldn't find American welders at over $200 per hour, with guaranteed 60 hr work weeks (overtime pay out the wazoo) to relocate for 4 years.
This was a big issue in build out of field production facilities in Bakken at about the same time. The propane tank fabrication plant opened since then at Fargo had to be shutdown a year ago. Not enough welders, so the new company builds them all in Mexico. The cost of shipping to ND is around $100,000 each, so Fargo was easily competitive.but for lack of labor.
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