ALL the following are Satanic Deception:

* Personal human theories about "fairness"
* "Karma", Mysticism, Occultism, experiences surrounding NDEs
* Wishful thinking about "second chances" (via "Reincarnation")
* Man's opinion: "'Good'-people-go-to-Heaven" (In God's eyes and presence -- and by HIS Standards, NO ONE IS "Good" enough to stand in His Presence"; ergo, "The Lamb of God" stands in our place).

Yes, there IS an "Afterlife"; Creative Rebels aren't going to like the actual lack of options.

What is to come at the ultimate Moment of Truth is recorded in the Revelation of John. God's promise to The Faithful (and un-faithful) shall prevail on what will be a very real (and terrifying for most) Judgement Day.

JUDGEMENT DAY (Sentencing OR Reward?):

"...[The] books were opened. And another book was opened, which is the Book of Life. And the dead were judged according to their works, by the things which were written in the books."

He [God Almighty] will dwell with them, and they shall be His people. God Himself will be with them and be their God. And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes; there shall be no more death, nor sorrow, nor crying. There shall be no more pain, for the former things have passed away.”

(Rev 21:3,4)

Then He who sat on the throne said, “Behold, I make all things new.” And He said to me, “Write, for these words are true and faithful.”

(Rev 21:5)

And He said to me, “It is done! I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. I will give of the fountain of the water of life freely to him who thirsts. He who overcomes shall inherit all things, and I will be his God and he shall be My son. (Rev 21: 6,7)

THE "Eternal Death-After-Mortal Life" DOOMED

BUT the cowardly, [e]unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.”

(Rev 21:6-8)

THE "Eternal Life-After-Mortal Life" SAVED

...the nations of those who are saved shall walk in its light, and the kings of the earth bring their glory and honor into it. Its gates shall not be shut at all by day (there shall be no night there). And they shall bring the glory and the honor of the nations into it. But there shall by no means enter it anything that defiles, or causes an abomination or a lie, but only those who are written in the Lamb’s Book of Life.

(Rev: 24-27)

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Posted on 2/12/22 at 12:16 pm to Liberator

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ALL the following are Satanic Deception:

* Personal human theories about "fairness"
* "Karma", Mysticism, Occultism, experiences surrounding NDEs
* Wishful thinking about "second chances" (via "Reincarnation")
* Man's opinion: "'Good'-people-go-to-Heaven" (In God's eyes and presence -- and by HIS Standards, NO ONE IS "Good" enough to stand in His Presence"; ergo, "The Lamb of God" stands in our place).

Yes, there IS an "Afterlife"; Creative Rebels aren't going to like the actual lack of options.

What is to come at the ultimate Moment of Truth is recorded in the Revelation of John. God's promise to The Faithful (and un-faithful) shall prevail on what will be a very real (and terrifying for most) Judgement Day.

I mostly agree with you, but all these things you claim that are absolutely Satanic deception aren't absolute...

What about the guy that said this:
"...all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword..."- that's karma. Muchless the many proverbs and other statements regarding the golden rule etc. Even when addressing people on the everlasting soul, there is judgment...the exact expression of karma. Christianity teaches that God is the gavelbearer, whereas other religions say its a god, the universe (of God) or the like. These parallels to wisdom outside biblical teachings are no accident.

On Mysticism, Corinthians 2 specifically addresses how to attain wisdom through the Holy Spirit. If you mean Mysticism through other means, well sure, it's cautioned against due to the susceptibility to be manipulated by demons, Satan or otherwise. I think it's Corithians 2:16 almost specifically asks WWJD.

It addresses other things as well throughout your statement. But what some guy says from the front of the room almost NEVER matches what the Bible's actual words say. Sure it's great to say "never think about Reincarnation because the Bible doesn't say it!"
But it actually does glance the topic throughout the old testament as if it's a common concept of Afterlife. Jesus picked up that concept to describe to Nicodemus the path that is taken to everlasting life. We literally dip our heads in water and say praise Jesus and consider that is the lesson he taught, when he literally says "If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?"...meaning this stuff doesn't go down on Earth.

It's not as black and white as all that, because some claims of deception just aren't...the claims themselves obfuscate the truth.

Dante wrote his interpretation of those statements at the end of Purgatorio. And it's quite beautiful.

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